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Exclusive: US to send depleted-uranium munitions to Ukraine (www.reuters.com)

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The use of depleted uranium munitions has been fiercely debated, with opponents like the International Coalition to Ban Uranium Weapons saying there are dangerous health risks from ingesting or inhaling depleted uranium dust, including cancers and birth defects.

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[-] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 10 months ago

And what, let the Russians steamroll Ukraine and take everything? Let them destroy a fledgling democracy? Right on the EU's and NATO's doorstep? Come on.

[-] fuckiforgotmypasswor@hexbear.net 53 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

let the Russians steamroll Ukraine and take everything?

I've noticed that every pro-NATO voice screaming "war good" has to pretend like the binary outcome of this war is a) Ukraine becomes Russia and every living inhabitant is genocided (see above comment from bibibi for case in point), or b) Ukraine heroically drives back Russia with magic in a completely asymmetrical and unwinnable war

Come on.

And then finishes their comment with something like this

There's no material analysis to support any of this

The only way to get to that viewpoint is to believe Putin is an irrational, genocidal maniac hellbent on killing checks notes neighbors who are ethnically russian, who also desperately wants to push even more of Russia's border right up against a hostile NATO. It's no surprise that the people saying this shit are pro NATO and don't understand the material reality underlying geopolitical conflicts like this one

Not gonna touch the "fledgeling democracy" thing, other comrades can dunk on that chefs-kiss

[-] bibibi@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"ethnical russian" - what is that?
russian imperialism is a thing. People there are brainwashed with russia's greatness ideas and expansion. putin's actions just represent the will of russians.
The fact we were attacked and lost that many people is already a defeat. We lost this war when gave up nukes under the push of the west and russia. this together with naivness of our post-soviet people defined the path of our degradation. But it neither a win for russia, and won't be. Russia was always corrupted just like Ukraine, it just got more resources and nukes, but that's it. without the above fact and support of the west, maybe we would not be able to suppress them