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From the guy's own mouth.

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[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (16 children)

The closest thing to the lie you wrote is the part where it says Putin demanded that NATO stop recognizing Ukraine as a sovereign country. So he's invading Ukraine because NATO didn't allow him to annex Ukraine Anschluss and annexation of Sudetenland style. And if you think that would help, remember that appeasing Putin over Georgia and, effectively, over Crimea and Donbass didn't do shit to stop his aggression.

Besides the document implies what was already obvious, which is that, before the war, Ukraine wasn't even going to be allowed into NATO any time soon, NATO countries just couldn't sign an agreement that would limit Ukraine's sovereignty.

[–] OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml 41 points 1 year ago (15 children)

What is the fascination with historically illiterate liberals trying to equate everything they don't like to Hitler?

Putin invaded Ukraine, because he doesn't want nukes 800 km from Moscow. If you don't understand this, you don't understand what is happening here.

[–] mrnotoriousman@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Putin invaded because he's an autocratic piece of shit that wants to bully smaller countries into increasing his own wealth and power. I don't expect a pro Kremlin stooge to understand anything happening here though.

[–] LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, geopolitics doesn't exist, it's all just this craaaaaayzee guy twirling his evil mustache. It's not like the Russian government has any say, or that almost everyone in it not only support the SMO but many of them think Putin is too soft on Ukraine and should commit much more of their military to it. It's not like over 70% of the Russian public also supports the SMO and Putin's decisions, saying they should never make concessions to return the Donbas to Ukraine. I mean, it's not like most of the world aside from the propaganda-steeped NATO countries also side with Russia with respect to the conflict. Nope. None of that. Just that one maniacal power hungry madman!

https://www.eiu.com/n/russia-can-count-on-support-from-many-developing-countries/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/30/negative-views-of-russia-mainly-limited-to-western-liberal-democracies-poll-shows

lol. It's so funny these fucking dweebs who can't understand the world beyond a simplistic Saturday-morning-cartoon kind of analysis with Putin being this season's villain.

[–] OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

It's Boris and Natasha from the Rocky Bullwinkle show. That's all it is to these idiots.

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