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[โ€“] Synthead@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

I agree with a blend of socialism and capitalism, and in the right places. The US has healthcare in the same category as PlayStations. I don't think this makes sense.

We should believe in healthy, educated Americans as a common ground. And if you want to save up for a PlayStation, go for it.

Ironically, since the government hasn't fully stepped in to provide healthcare, coverage has moved to the private sector. So you still have socialist healthcare, just with shitty insurance companies trying to find ways to make billions of dollars from sick individuals.

I think we can do better. Do you?

[โ€“] grilled_cheese_eater@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's no need for any privatization. We can simply have a market socialist economy that works on the principles of worker and customer owned companies.

Basically, we can have utility companies (and that type of stuff) be owned equally by the citizens they serve, have all the other companies be heavily antitrust regulated and owned equaly by the workers of said companies through the worker cooperative corporate structure.

Conflict of interest things (like healthcare) can simply be government programs.

This way, we preserve the market and the Playstation while at the same time ensuring that Sony makes more moral choices and pays all their workers fairly.

There's no need for Uber rich people to even exist, functioning examples of worker cooperative companies exist (For example, Mondragon Group in Spain).

I belive profit itself should be eliminated, we can do just fine without it.

[โ€“] Synthead@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I have a broken car and want to sell it to my neighbor, how can I do that if profit is eliminated?

[โ€“] grilled_cheese_eater@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I meant corporate profit. Selling your used car wouldn't earn you any profit in the first place and even if it did, you would be your very own self employed employee.

I meant profit as the money that instead of through fair wages for actual employees is distributed through dividends to shareholders.

I thought everyone had the same definition of the word "profit", but I guess not.

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