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[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Like climate change, this mostly is not an intellectual question. Good answers in theory don't matter if you have a reactionary political establishment that refuses to implement it.

[–] lnee@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Like for climate change bad solutions exist and if people are pushing back you should listen, a solution maby it's not good anoth maby we are spending time getting bad solutions to work when we should work on find new solutions.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Like for climate change, waiting and doing nothing when we already have a wealth of research on the subject will do much more damage than even the worse solutions that the data still supports [rather than moronic, unsupported solutions like giant ice machines].

Like for climate change, the pushback is mainly based on people being paid to push back and the astroturfing funded by the same people in a litany of campaigns that have gone on for decades. People disagreeing do not, by the very fact of being "people disagreeing", have a valid point, and usually they do not in the context of these subjects.

[–] lnee@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Give me ten pitfalls for green tech.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] lnee@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every piece of tech has trade-offs list ten for green tech.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why ten? How many does "lithium batteries are made with a substantial amount lithium" count for?

Beyond that, I'm not just some bullshit technocrat, I don't believe that "innovating your way out of the apocalypse" is almost ever possible. Yeah, we should move away from car-centric infrastructure, which could be conflated for arguing for "green tech" because, compared to cars, trains, bikes, scooters, etc. are green tech, but overwhelmingly my suggestions are policy-side because stopping the destruction of the earth is not a sci-fi pipe dream, it is a materially feasible goal and has been for as long as capitalists have been destroying it.

[–] lnee@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

I think that I already explained that I don't really give a shit about this

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