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[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (10 children)

as I said to the other guy, I'm not saying not natural is bad. But what op is implying is that getting the same stuff from natural sources is bad. That I just don't agree with. It's just the natural order of things. I have other options, yes, but I don't consider the default natural source of things to be bad, so I don't feel the need to switch. Animals eat animals all the time. And they don't do it "humanely" either.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Animals don't have the options we do. That argument fails.

Plus, that argument could be used to justify rape and murder. Perfectly natural. They don't breed humanely.

[–] Kushia@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What if the animals just ate plants instead?

[–] projectd@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Herbivores must, carnivores must not, omnivores with very high level thinking and moral agency is fortunate enough to choose.

[–] Kushia@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So there isn't the right nutrition available in plants to sustain every animal?

[–] projectd@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yes, I'm pretty sure a lion would die if he tried eating only plants, while I'd imagine a cow would die on a meat diet. I'm less well versed on non-human animal diets though, as I've never needed to give it a lot of thought.

I do know that humans can be very strong, fit and healthy on a plant-based diet, as confirmed by the world's medical institutions, and demonstrated by vegan athletes of all types.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

No one said every animal, just humans

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