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[–] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago (15 children)

Treat people like animals for decades, it's no surprise how they act. Israel is at fault for both sides deaths.

[–] qdJzXuisAndVQb2@lemm.ee 30 points 11 months ago (2 children)

No. Humans are more than their base instincts. Hamas should not have murdered civilians. Israel should not be abusing Gazans. Both are true at the same time.

[–] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"It is hard to remember that people can be both victim and perpetrator at the same time."

We try often try to assign one group as the good guys and the other as the bad guys. It doesn't work like that.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

God especially on the internet, can't have any nuance about "well you're right, but that doesn't mean personal responsibility just ceases to exist" it's just "You're as extreme as me or you're on the other side"

[–] SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Palestine isn't Hamas. Hamas doesn't represent all of Palestine

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It does however represent the group that killed 1000+ people, mostly civilians, with no clear goal beyond their stated desire for Jewish extinction and radical islamic Sharia law to be spread as far as possible.

Palestine in general being a victim doesn't automatically make Hamas the good guys or their specific actions acceptable.

[–] SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That doesn't mean you get to glass Palestine. If people really cared about dead babies and a death toll then they would be against Israel doing this.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

I didn't say it did, though I suppose that goes for what I said as well.

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 points 11 months ago

Right, but more than one thing can be true at once.

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