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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by bdonvr@thelemmy.club to c/linux@lemmy.ml
 

After a couple years on Fedora I decided to do one more Distro hop- to one I have little experience with, openSUSE.

But it seems the everything from the installer, philosophy, package manager, configs, and general way of working is just very different than every Distro I've tried before (Debian/*Buntu, Fedora, Arch, Gentoo)

Like what's up with YaST? It's like a system-wide settings/configs program plus a package manager front end unique to openSUSE?

And to update grub it seems the best command is "update-bootloader" - for example. This isn't standard on anything else afaik. Is there anywhere other than practice I can learn all of these quirks?

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[–] zephr_c@lemm.ee 87 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Most modern distros are either new distro trying to have more modern sensibilities, distros based off of Debian, Arch, or Fedora, or occasionally original things that are okay with being superficially similar to one of those while doing things differently at lower levels. OpenSUSE is one of the few remaining distros from the olden days that has been independent and doing their own thing for decades without spawning a bunch of forks or dying off. If you want to try something even older and crazier Slackware is sure an experience.

[–] gh0stcassette@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Slackware's package manager doesn't even do dependency resolution. I respect the fact that it's managed to keep existing this long and that so much of what it did inspired other distros, but I honestly have no idea why anyone would use it in 2023. Imo dependency resolution is the main reason to even have a package manager, without that I might as well install everything by cloning random git repos. If you want packages compiled from source, why not just use Gentoo (or Source Mage? Idk much about it, but I read through their website and it seems neat).

That being said, if anyone uses Slackware, I'd love to know why. It's survived this long, surely it must be doing something right.

[–] afb@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

The Slackware community has produced about 8 package manager front-ends that handle dependency resolution, so it's not an issue at all and hasn't been for over a decade. The big thing with Slackware is an emphasis on simplicity of design over ease of use and an expectation that the user will make all the decisions regarding how their system is maintained. I love it, use it on my main machine (Void on my laptop, Ubuntu on my server). It's taught me a lot about operating systems in general and Linux in particular, and it lets me do whatever I like. I use sbotools and flatpak for my 3rd party software, the former being a ports-like interface to slackbuilds.org (like the AUR for Slackware, but far smaller and with a lot more quality control). Works great, no surprises, boots fast, rock solid and dependable.

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