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[–] GrouchyLady@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (12 children)

What's the issue with WhatsApp? I thought it was great for privacy.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)
[–] keen1320@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It’s still E2EE, as far as I know. Meta could always remove that feature but until they do, I’d consider it a safe and private messaging platform.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

None of the messaging metadata is encrypted. They use that metadata to build profiles of people who aren't Facebook or Instagram users that interact with Facebook and Instagram users. If you care about profiling for the sake of avoiding social engineering attacks, it's one of your worst choices. If all you care about is protecting the contents of your messages, yeah, it's pretty okay

[–] keen1320@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No disagreement there. I could have clarified, my comment was in regard to message content only. I didn't realize that about metadata and certainly am not defending Meta. I'd prefer Signal over anything else but as others have mentioned, getting friends and family to adopt is painful.

[–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol no it's not. Meta can and WILL decrypt it. They have decrypted messages for police requests numerous times, and not necessarily under court order, just police asking. I support decryption under court order, but these weren't court ordered. Thinking anything owned by Meta is secure is ridiculous.

[–] keen1320@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Then this is false advertising and a class-action lawsuit that should have already happened.

This Arstechnica article seems to confirm that they can't decrypt without user intervention and that they have only ever supplied metadata to law enforcement. I'm no fan of Meta but do you have sources that they have in fact decrypted actual message content at the request of law enforcement?

[–] 8565@lemmy.quad442.com 5 points 1 year ago

It's e2e from your device to server however once on the server Meta can access everything. Same as Apples e2e

[–] jackpot@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

or have a backdoor already or add one

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