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Tesla is failing to play by Swedish labor rules, unions claim. Now a strike that started with mechanics is beginning to spread.

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[โ€“] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de 105 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Come to Europe and fuck with unions, great idea, Musk.

His dumb ass will escalate and get in trouble with IG Metall, I can already see it...

[โ€“] Sprokes@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I am afraid that he already bought some politicians. Did you see how he was welcomed by French government?

[โ€“] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's the nice thing about unions, they don't care what politicians say ;)

[โ€“] albert180@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But politicians can cripple unions as Union (German Christian Party=> Conservatives)and SPD (German Social Democrats) did with the Tarifeinheitsgesetz when the Union of Train Drivers did run a too successful strike for their taste Edit: Clarified that Union and SPD are referring to German political parties

[โ€“] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That doesn't affect most workers in unions, and can also be protested... by striking.

[โ€“] albert180@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How? I thought political strikes are not legal?

[โ€“] Dass93@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In Denmark if a political decision is taken that is against the union, the union can start a counter strike against them. Have happened before and it set the country on breake.

[โ€“] albert180@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Well unfortunately it's not so easy in Germany. Good for you to have better labour laws

[โ€“] Sprokes@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I know that but the gouvernement could passes law and unions couldn't do nothing about it (that's what happen when a gouvernement uses force instead of dialogue). In the recent years the French gouvernement passed many laws that weakened employees rights. Do you know that if you go into court against your employer and you win, you will just get few hundred euros? It won't ever cover for lawyer expenses. That's because a law was to max the amount you can and it is very low.

[โ€“] albert180@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Normally the Union gives you a lawyer for employment related disputes

[โ€“] Sprokes@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yes I know but the French gouvernement passed many laws not in favor of employees. There were strikes for months but the gouvernement didn't listen and police was beating people.

Now an employer can fire you because of race / sexual orientation... Etc. You can win if you went into trial but the employer may pay just few hundreds euros because there is a limit that caps how much the employer will pay.

Unions couldn't do anything about it? Sure... ๐Ÿ™„

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