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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by ktr41n@lemmy.world to c/general@lemmy.world

A good example is https://lemmy.world/c/documentaries

One of their mods, https://lemmy.world/u/sabbah, currently mods 54 communites despite only being on Lemmy for about a month and has never posted on c/documentaries (except for his post asking for people to join his mod team).

The other mod, https://lemmy.world/u/AradFort, has one post to c/documentaries and moderates 18 communities.

Does Lemmy.World have a plan to remove this kind of cancer before we start getting reddit supermods here too?

Edit: This comment shows how this is even more dangerous than I had thought.

Edit2: Official answer from LW admin is here

Final: Was going to create an issue for this on the Lemmy github, but I browsed for awhile and found that it had already been done. If anyone wants to continue the discussion there, here it is - https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3452

Perhap we need another issue for the problem in the original edit (It being impossible currently to remove a 'founding' mod without destroying either the community of their account)

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[-] genoxidedev1@kbin.social 174 points 11 months ago

I knew this would happen and that's why I am FOR hardcoded community limits per user unless an admin, in individual cases, allows the user to open additional communities based on past handling of other communities the user has been (or was supposed to be) modding.

Letting a user create 54 communities, especially those that were some of the biggest communities on Reddit is dangerous. Powermodding is a serious problem on online platforms and letting individual users create unlimited communities leads to it. Imagine how much money this person might want to sell their Account(s) for when the platform grows further and interest might accrue?

It is humanely impossible to mod more than a handful of communities alone anyways. The users you mentioned are powermods.

As another good example against freedom of creating unlimited communities is user LMAO whom most of you will probably at least have heard of by now, or even found when searching for a community that has numbers in its name.

I will stand by this position.

[-] ShakeThatYam@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

Couldn't someone make alt accounts?

[-] genoxidedev1@kbin.social 27 points 11 months ago

Should we just keep the door open with an advertising sign or should we at least take the advertising sign away?

That's not an argument not to introduce hardcoded limits, it is a problem for sure, but leaving them the opportunity without at least making it a bit of a hassle is just going to invite opportunity assholes.

[-] James@lemmy.ca 17 points 11 months ago

Admin owners can see IPs, which will grab most of the abusers who do this.

There are other less direct techniques that major social media platforms use to identify users with multiple accounts even on separate IPs, which Lemmy will certainly need one day.

For now though, simply using IPs is good enough until those more sophisticated algorithms are developed.

[-] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.one 3 points 11 months ago

They absolutely could. I don't know if there's a good technical solution to that. Maybe requiring IP registration or some other identity verification for mods over a certain number of communities.

[-] Aux@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Residential IPs change on a regular basis, you can't do anything by IP.

[-] James@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago

They don’t change fast enough.

You can’t ban by IP, but you can sure tell what accounts are owned by the same person or coming from the same network.

It’s not perfect, but it’s another step that will catch many.

[-] Aux@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

There are millions of people in the same network, lol. IP doesn't tell you anything.

[-] Blaze@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

Then they would use VPNs

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