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I know we pretty much all hated spez for all the shit he pulled, but a few weeks ago the tone towards reddit itself around here was more neutral. People liked it here on Lemmy a lot better, but people weren't hating on the old place so much.

Recently I'm seeing this huuuuuuuge surge of just pure fucking hatred leveled at the site itself. Anyone else notice this or is it just me?

I mean, I was there because I thought it was alright. I hated spez for fucking it up and completely screwing his communities over. But I never hated reddit itself, and I still don't. Otherwise I would've left a lot sooner.

Do you personally hate reddit? If so, why?

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[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (47 children)

Reddit used to be a lawless land that didn't care about comedy accounts or multiple accounts or shit posts. No one ever got banned. No one ever got censored. It was fun. People didn't take it that seriously.

The last few years however it's been turning into basically any other social media site. Politics everywhere, censorship galore and bans handed out willy nilly based on nothing more than ideologies and opinions, mods and admins tightly controlling narratives of threads and entire subs, and just slowly eroding what made it a fun site to visit. Certain political ideologies have taken over and anything outside of those opinions is insta-banned. Going to Reveddit or uneddit (i think thats the name of the second one) and looking at any "hot topic" thread was eye opening - mods and admins removing dozens/hundreds of completely harmless comments because they didn't like the opinion that was shared, leaving no trace that the comments even existed, giving the perception that there wasn't any censoring going on.

I don't hate reddit. I deleted my 12+ year old account and left because it isn't the site I liked, and an alternative now exists in Lemmy. I think Reddit is a shitty site now that is basically a highly censored astroturfed political site, but I don't care that I'm no longer using it.

People on here are hating reddit more now because more and more people are coming here from reddit because of the shitty things reddit has been doing.

[–] Cornes@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's hard knowing that your favourite small subs are a ticking time bomb; once they get too large they tend to be too strictly controlled and the content quality drops.

[–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

People act like strict moderation/“control“ is universally bad, yet AskHistorians is often held up as one of the best subs ever created. Do you know what makes that possible? Do you know what would happen if they relaxed the rules?

[–] Cornes@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That example is an obvious exception.

Most subs are hobbyist or the like and far too often I see 'locked because ya'll can't behave' in the last few years. There's an upvote/downvote system for a reason; not everything needs to be babied and pruned to what the mods want. Might be one of the few good things about the removal of API because they can't mass delete comments anymore, killing the actual discussion.

[–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

there’s an upvote/downvote system for a reason

Oh come now you aren’t so naive as to think that system actually works as intended or anywhere near as good as it needs to be to leaned on. Would you trust a community vote that used upvotes/downvotes?

not everything needs to be babied and pruned to what the mods want.

What the community wants. And no not everything, but frankly some people do act like babies and need to be handled as such. I personally had no tolerance for trolling. The sub I modded did not want that crap at all. Hence why they kept supporting our rules and every vote we held to change things ended with “this works well.”

People think they want a “true democracy” (doesn’t exist with the tools we have) and “total free speech” on forums but let me tell you you absolutely do not. Go ask Voat how that turned out.

[–] Cornes@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We'll keep going in circles because we have our own preferences.

[–] hoodatninja@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

You seriously want reddit's upvote/downvote system as the primary way of doing things?

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