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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] systemguy_64@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago (11 children)

This should be required watching for every moron who claims gas is better.

If you need that instant temperature drop, remove it from the heat??

Also, induction is even better. Hopefully they become affordable and not priced like fancy appliances in the next decade.

[–] glencairn84@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The main advantage for gas isn't speed, it's control. I have both gas and electric, standard halogen etc type stoves are junk compared to the fine (also instant, consistent, and reliably easy to gauge) control that gas hobs provide. Not to mention a very even heat . But I agree modern induction finally provide that similar level of control (though the one induction hob I've used, while excellent granular control, did seem to heat unevenly requiring the pan to be regularly turned to avoid one-sided burning).

[–] baru@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

did seem to heat unevenly requiring the pan to be regularly turned to avoid one-sided burning).

That's due to the heating area being incredibly tiny on various crappy induction stoves.

[–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I've had a different experience with gas stoves... many of the standard ones can't be turned down low enough. Simmering something or just keeping it warm is a challenge because there's too much flame. Really easy to burn sauces or hard to keep them from boiling after they're done and you just want them to stay warm.

When shopping for appliances for a new house a few years ago I had to pay quite a bit extra to get a higher-end gas stove that had a dual ring of burners that could be turned down lower. In retrospect I wish I'd simply went electric.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Induction is better in every way, like power output, heating speed, and control, except being able to lift the pan freely wok style. Cooking with gas indoors is totally stupid.

[–] glencairn84@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Better in every way is nonsense. Cooking indoors is only stupid for morons that don't know how to safely use a gas stove top. There's a reason most professional kitchens still use gas and haven't all rushed to replace with induction - the benefits don't outweigh the investment.

@glencairn84 @jol safely as in...? Properly ventilating the kitchen in the middle of a cold winter?

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 10 months ago

It's cheaper to operate and repair gas stoves. That's why professional kitchens still use them. But you don't operate a professional kitchen. You cook twice a day at most.

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