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[–] mossy_capivara@midwest.social 19 points 1 year ago (24 children)

Trust me I know, having my whole family try it out and then have them pull that later was a punch in the face

[–] sarsaparilyptus@discuss.online 8 points 1 year ago (21 children)

Was that the punch in the face, or was it all the morons intentionally misinterpreting this argument and saying "but why would u want to send nonsecure messages are you aware SMS isn't secure it's like so insecure to send SMS bro it's not secure it's like literally a security risk bro SMS isn't secure at all and also are you aware SMS security is poor"

[–] dismalnow@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (20 children)

Not doubting that pushy idiots are going to pushy idiot, but I think you've strawmanned the actual reason hard enough.

Most people who want it back don't need, want, or understand why secure messaging exists.

Here's the simple facts:

SMS is not secure, or private.
Signal is for secure, private comms.

As mildly inconvenient as it is, Signal explained their reasoning in great detail, and I happen to agree: There should never have been an insecure option on a secure messaging app.

[–] ChaosSauce@wizanons.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Totally agree. Good opsec is all about building good habits. Having 1 app for secure and a different app for normal creates a healthy compartmentalization in the mind for ease of building and maintaining habits.

[–] dismalnow@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Indeed.

It's a very basic trade that it seems few understand. You MUST trade a bit of convenience to increase your security, or mistakes will happen.

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