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submitted 11 months ago by leraje@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Apple has said planned changes to British surveillance laws could affect iPhone users’ privacy by forcing it to withdraw security features, which could ultimately lead to the closure of services such as FaceTime and iMessage in the UK.

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[-] athlon@lemm.ee 58 points 11 months ago

Everyone commeting here saying “good, we will switch to X” is absolutely stupid. This law means no iMessage, no Signal, no WhatsApp, no Telegram, no secure encrypted messaging for anyone.

[-] itchy_lizard@feddit.it 8 points 11 months ago

Bullshit. Open source distributed messaging clients will always exist. The key is to federate and host in other countries.

[-] athlon@lemm.ee 19 points 11 months ago

Okay, try explaining it to my 51 years old father. Or someone who really isn’t into tech in general.

Federated stuff will work for you and I - technically knowledgeable people. But we are a tiny fraction of population. The success of WhatsApp lays in its super simplicity.

[-] itchy_lizard@feddit.it 5 points 11 months ago

Click this link, type email and password. Federated services are just as easy from UX side. The complexity is the backend.

[-] athlon@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It seems easy, but the moment you ask the user to “choose their instance” - you already push away a lot of untechnical people. What is an instance? How do I know which one is good? Will I be able to talk to people on other instances (look at Lemmy, some instances are blocked by other instances)? Why do I even have to choose an instance?

From an UX standpoint, that’s a disaster. Stuff like Lemmy or Mastodon will remain forever a niche, because of that.

EDIT: Typo

[-] itchy_lizard@feddit.it 6 points 11 months ago

Yeah, don't tell your grandpa to pick an instance. Just link him straight to the registration page. Solved.

Lemmy is the same. Facebook is the same. You don't need to tell a user that their Facebook account is going to be shared by their geography. That doesn't matter.

Just link then to the registration page for the instance that you use. Easy.

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