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One of the admins at lemmy.blahaj.zone asked us to purge a community and all of its users because they thought it was full of child sexual abuse material, aka CSAM, fka kiddy porn. We assured them that we had checked this comm thoroughly and we were satisfied that all of the models on it were of age.

The admin then demanded we purge the comm because they mistook it for CSAM, and claimed that the entire point of the community was to make people think it was CSAM. We vehemently disagreed that that was in fact the point of the community, but they decided to defederate from us anyway. That is of course their choice, but we will not purge our communities or users because someone else makes a mistake of fact, and then lays the responsibility for their mistake at our feet.

If someone made a community intended to fool people into thinking it was kiddy porn, that would be a real problem. If someone of age goes online and pretends -- not roleplays, but pretends with intent to deceive -- to be a child and makes porn, that is a real problem. Nobody here is doing that.

One of the reasons we run our instance the way that we do is that we want it to be inclusive. We don't body shame, and we believe that all adults have a right to sexual expression. That means no adult on our instance is too thin, fat, bald, masculine, old, young, cis, gay, etc., to be sexy, and that includes adults that look younger than some people think they should. Everyone has a right to lust and to be lusted after. There's no way to draw a line that says "you can't like adult people that look like X" without crossing a line that we will not cross.

EDIT: OK, closing this post to new comments. Everything that needs saying has been said. Link to my convo with the blahaj admin here.

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[–] parkomin@lemmynsfw.com 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

this community (adorableporn) is allowed on reddit and has 2.1m members there. why would you try to be more holy than the pope?

if it's ok for reddit and every ad company, then maybe this comm isn't that bad

maybe that admin was just flustered that their CSAM allegation was wrong and were unable to stop their demands from that point.

if that admin actually believes in their allegations: you can't ban young adults from presenting themselves in a sexpositive way.

aren't femboys also the same thing? it is a community of people that bases their identity on having youthful girlish looks. being "adorable" is also a goal of them.

[–] dm_me_ur_cock@lemmynsfw.com 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I posted this a few minutes ago, but I think this is a great example of how the Fediverse should work. That instance had issues, they expressed them and the Admins of this instance did their due diligence. The other instance defederated as is their right, and if any of their users still want to participate, they can spin up a new account here, or on any number of other servers. I think this is true free speech in action, the posters haven't been banned, blocked or told to stop. The ones with the problem have removed themselves from the conversation.

[–] parkomin@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

they removed themselves from a lot more conversations than simply the adorableporn one.

i don't think this is how the fediverse should work, you have a problem with one community, you block the entire instance for all your users.

From what i understand the blahaj admins had no problems with the other communities here, but the entire instance is blocked there now.

nsfw content is always an afterthought tho on social media and always gets cut down in some way for the greater platform. that's why i value the ability to make an account here a lot.

[–] dm_me_ur_cock@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm sorry if you though I disagreed with you. I have no interest in the content in question. I don't personally like it, or agree with it. I also don't want it banned, blocked, or censored. I'm a middle aged gay guy, and I have most of this instance blocked since I only want to interact with other gay men. Thats literally free speech. Your users can post/say what want, if it offends anyone/they can remove themselves from said content via blocking or reporting.

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Also, blaha doesn't allow downvotes because that could discourage people from posting and getting support when needed. So it's impossible to see how far allies have reported and downvoted the assholes trying to hurt the innocent.