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[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (27 children)

Like, everything?

Guake doesn't work, gnome-screenshot doesn't work, Plank doesn't work...

Most GUI utilities that integrate into the OS of some kind require drawing over apps. It's absurd that Wayland doesn't support this properly for uhhh no reason other than vague claims of improved security and process isolation. If someone's into your system with such a degree of access it's all over anyway.

If I'm not using Gnome, then I'll be using i3 and then I honestly could care less which one, I'll just be using the most compatible one which I think is just xorg. Plasma just sucks I'm so sorry, it's messy.

And I'm sorry but there's no serious work you can do with an AMD GPU either. I wish it wasn't like this but it is, no CUDA no joy.

Wayland is DOA and will never replace Xorg. Deal with it.

[–] brian@programming.dev 12 points 6 months ago (24 children)

This is just misinformed.

Sure your favorite apps may not use it, but Wayland does provide protocols for drawing things over other apps. https://wayland.app/protocols/wlr-layer-shell-unstable-v1

I never used guake with i3 since scratchpads exist and are the general solution, and sway works fine there.

and there's plenty of screenshot apps that work. I haven't tried gnome-screenshot, but I find it hard to believe that it or some alternative gnome one doesn't work given the effort the project has put into Wayland

nvidia support isn't great but it is getting better. I haven't bought nvidia in forever but I know plasma and gnome both say they have support for Wayland on nvidia now.

For gaming amd is great, for real work I'd just rent time on some cloud service lol. If I'm that worried about performance my one consumer gpu isn't going to make a dent either

[–] daqqad@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nvidia works great on Wayland. Even unusual configuration I'm running with egpu hooked up to a laptop with another Nvidia card built in. Zero issues. I'm allergic to Gnome, but KDE works beautifully.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I’m running with egpu hooked up to a laptop with another Nvidia card built in.

Hey could you please point me to some resources to wrap my head around what I need to know to consider an egpu setup with Linux? Just looking for something that will overview of requirements and pain points, all the better if I can try to figure out what a good bang for the buck rig looks like right now.

This is something I've been curious about for awhile, but most of the articles I've found seem to assume I've got some egpu knowhow already.

[–] daqqad@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I found almost no resources for this but it was mostly plug and play.

One thing I can suggest is keep everything same brand. My laptop has an Nvidia gpu built in and I tried using amd gpu without success. Spent about a week on it and tried various combination of drivers and settings. Nvidia just works.

Also Intel gpus require rebar enabled which almost none of the laptops support so I did not really consider them even though they were super attractive because of pricing.

The way I use it is set prime-select to Intel2 which disables built in Nvidia gpu and then I activate external gpu after login by running nvidia-smi as root after login. Then you just launch apps you want to use Nvidia gpu with

__NV_PRIME_RENDER_OFFLOAD=1 __GLX_VENDOR_LIBRARY_NAME=nvidia command_name arguments

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

Thank you! So it sounds like I just need to find a GPU and enclosure combo that fits my budget (TBD) , and it's like adding any other bit of hardware. I do have an intel-only system currently (integrated Iris XE), so I'll have to dig in on that. Thanks!

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