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The instance seems to be mostly right wing trolls. I know defederating is unpopular but I don't think much is to be lost in this case and it can save the mods some headaches.

Edit: the response on exploding-heads.com to my reporting of transphobia. Courtesy of the "second in command"

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[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 182 points 1 year ago (35 children)

Yeah I must confess I recently went over there and agitated them a bit. I just wanted to see what their deal was because I saw a few of them over here.

TLDR they are basically like r/thedonald, libertarian types. Use slurs as a badge of honor. Angry, sad people. Fully in favor of defederation. But I get that it's early days, and defederation is a sensitive topic. I just don't see any path to that server becoming something of value that I'd want to interact with.

[–] AyyLMAO@exploding-heads.com 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Or perhaps you just didn't see those who don't bother engaging in conflict?

I fully understand why you don't expect to find content there in the future, but is that a good argument to deny access to those who already have?

Exploding heads have gotten subscribers from here as well. There's an extensive backlog of topics some people find quite important - even if others don't.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't have a problem with you personally. You've been fairly reasonable in our interactions. But the people on your server are not great. Maybe you should make an account here.

[–] ethane@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't care for them myself, but unless they're causing problems outside for everyone else, why defederate?

If there are communities you don't want to see, you can block them as they appear.

[–] Alue42@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

The argument being that if they aren't blocked at an instance-level, due to how the federation works, those comments could very easily spill over into these threads. Those that do want to participate in good faith would need to create an account with an instance that is federated.

[–] ripcord@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How do you block them? Not a feature on kbin yet as far as I know.

[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

If you'd like to block them here on kbin, go to to their domain page:

https://kbin.social/d/exploding-heads.com

and then click the "cancel" circle/crossout button over in the sidebar next to "subscribe". That'll block the entire domain.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Radicalisation starts with people "just asking questions" or "just pointing out an issue with X without having anything against them", that's enough to hook some people that will go way down the rabbit hole.

In the screenshot you see exactly what I'm talking about, "I'm not racist, but I can point out issues with the BLM movement". Alright they just opened the door to people that are a bit more radical to try and find out where the tolerance ends and to others to start looking for answers with a biased premise in mind.

I invite you to watch this video (and the whole series really) that covers all of that:

https://youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g

[–] vacuumflower@vlemmy.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, there are indeed issues with the BLM movement. And this "possibly leading to radicalization" is much better than lack of critique.

Say, cultural appropriation is suddenly fine when it's black people doing it. (Talking about Cleopatra in that show, the show itself is not important, just that the "politically correct" approach to it differs.)

Or people who think that BLM is more important than actual ethnic cleansing happening in parts of the planet far away from BLM.

Of course, these issues are inherited from general ignorance and indifference to suffering of others combined with trends of virtue signaling. Same happens in many areas not connected to racism.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] vacuumflower@vlemmy.net 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think this is a satisfactory answer.

Anyway, what I said can be shortened to "everybody who is looking sees you as a hypocrite when you are doing this kind of activism which costs nothing".

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