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Experts say Canada's regulations around parking, which in many cases is free, contributes to Canadaโ€™s housing crisis. What can be done about it?

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[โ€“] FlareHeart@lemmy.ca 24 points 8 months ago (11 children)

If you aren't going to give us walkable cities or really efficient public transit, then we need cars and therefore need the parking. There is no way in this or any world that I am hauling $300 worth of groceries to a bus stop, just to sit there and wait half an hour (at -20C) for a dilapidated bus that may or may not even run on time and has the risk of someone stealing some of those overpriced groceries on the 30 minute ride it would take to get home.

I live in Saskatchewan and it will very frequently get to -30 or below. I cannot ride a bike in that safely without risk of frost bite, so cycling is out of the question (at least in the winter). I drive as small of a car as I could buy, but even small cars are dwindling now in favor of the giant SUV's and pickup trucks that seem to think they own both the road and the parking lots. The public transit in my city is so inefficient that it would take me an hour worth of riding the bus, and a transfer, just to get downtown. I can drive that in 10 minutes. Getting to the other side of the city? 90 minutes to 2 hours and multiple transfers. Or 15 to 20 minutes by car.

Our public transit and walk-ability needs to be remedied long before you start building over parking lots. Businesses with no parking will suffer a lack of business if there is no parking and no change to the current systems.

[โ€“] FunderPants@lemmy.ca -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

I don't know why, but people saying it very regularly gets to - 30 really grinds my gears because we record the temperature, we know exactly how many days a year are like that. I think we have different ideas of 'very frequently', I'm curious how many days a year you think very frequently is.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/cold-weather-snap-saskatchewan-1.4997353

Edit: Just FYI, I'm not griping at the rest of your comment at all, not really addressing it, it's just that one thing.

[โ€“] FlareHeart@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You are failing to take into account wind chill. In SK, with our high winds, a -15C day can turn into a -25C day pretty easily. I am a big baby when it comes to the cold and I fully accept this. But when the wind chill puts things into "frost bite in 5 minutes" territory, I'm sorry, but I'm not riding my bike to the grocery store and risking frost bite on my fingers and nose. Nor do I want to stand at an outdoor bus stop waiting who knows how long for a bus. Now if zoning wasn't so dumb and put my grocery store so far out of residential areas, it wouldn't be so bad. But city planning is centered around having a car, sadly.

[โ€“] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I didn't tell you to ride your bike to the grocery store in - 30 weather, because that would be a very stupid thing to tell someone to do. I don't know who you are arguing with. I'm saying that you likely don't have very frequent days below - 30, and that this is information that can be looked up.

I do this because I usually see this idea, the frequency of days below 30, used as an escape valve against electric cars. The realty is though, that the cars work in that weather and that those days are rare, so I don't like to let the frequency claim go unchallenged and speak up when I see it to help ensure people think critically about the claim when they see it.

Unchallenged claims become memes, which can be indistinguishable from truth for a lot of people.

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