It's getting a bit annoying honestly how people are telling other developers how to run their projects. And often these people don't even contribute anything

I personally hate discord, but I do use slack. Using discord or slack however doesn't make your code any less open source

If people want this, they can set up something for my projects, and convince users to go. If it's successful I'd join too. Otherwise, it's really just focusing on things that dont actually matter much. I've personally been part of a project which died because we focused too much on infrastructure

[–] lemmylem@lemm.ee 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

We shouldn't be mixing FOSS projects with proprietary communication platforms. There are a lot of FOSS enthusiasts who want their setup to be entirely free and open, including Discord into the mix basically goes against the whole philosophy.

[–] Auzy@beehaw.org 8 points 7 months ago

Great, well those FOSS enthusiasts can contribute something to the project if they want to dictate how it is run, or/and they can set it up and moderate it.

Again, projects need to be super careful not to get caught up in overheads than actually producing results. One of my projects we spent so much time jerking around with choosing source code systems and such, that we didn't really produce anything. You start nitpicking features, servers, long term reliability, etc, instead of just picking what you're familiar with which might be closed source but super popular.

I we go extreme, a hardcore FOSS user could even argue developers shouldn't use VS Code and argue they should use another tool. Well, if you're more productive with VS Code and produce more/better code though, use that, because its the results that matter.

The fact is, most projects get 0 donations and people do them as a hobby. If people seriously want this, they can contribute donations to projects to get them to switch

Also, this link is basically a Sourcehut advert..

[–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Maybe you should ditch your android phone for a pine phone while you're at it.

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why when you can use GrapheneOS. FOSS, privacy respecting Android...

[–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But you can't do that, the whole phone has to be open source Right down to the chipset! How are you going to know if it's respecting your privacy the hardware is a black box it doesn't matter if you have to create custom solutions to get your banking app working on it. That's kinda the standard your holding these open source devs to.

It's not enough you spend your free time writing code with basically no compensation you have to maintain a server, pay for hosting, make sure security patches go through, troubleshooting when it goes down, write custom software to automate support tickets, and deal with people potentially trying to ddos your instance, etc.

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Most users find mobile banking works out of the box on GrapheneOS.

I'm not disputing the last stuff is not fun. Matrix works quite well and you can set up a bridge with discord. Using spaces correctly cuts down spam easier also. The problem remains, even if you set them up, my experience is 92% of users come in through Discord. I'd love that to change, but it's just a fact of the matter.

[–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah, I don't have foss painted on my chest but I like the idea. It'll become more mainstream once people figure out a system to get devs paid and reduce the drawbacks of someone cloning a project, injecting ads, and providing it as a free alternative. If all those things and the issue of paying people to provide professional support for companies using it get solved. I can see a bright future for foss.

EDIT: I've also heard graphene is is pretty good, I like my android auto though.

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