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[–] bramblepatchmystery@slrpnk.net 2 points 8 months ago (25 children)

Al Jazeera being the state media of Qatar is a conspiracy? Has Al Jazeerah been told this?

[–] CottonSeed@slrpnk.net 4 points 8 months ago (24 children)

accusing people who post accurate information to Lemmy of being state actors is, yes, a conspiracy theory

[–] bramblepatchmystery@slrpnk.net 2 points 8 months ago (23 children)

If a leftist believes that a far right regime is the only place to get accurate information that can't be found elsewhere, and then promotes that far right regime's media, that person is not a leftist.

What are they? I don't know. But when we have a small amount of accounts of people who are not who they claim to be, and they all are spending hours per day promoting the exact same message, and occasionally responding to the wrong messages, coordination of some kind is happening.

These accounts who push borderline pro-hamas sentiments while using Qatari media to do so may not be state sponsored. It could just be some lone nutcase who just really agrees with Qatar's geopolitical goals.

[–] CottonSeed@slrpnk.net 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

they don't need to believe it is the only place to get accurate information to post accurate information from there

[–] bramblepatchmystery@slrpnk.net 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How do you personally determine when a right wing propaganda outlet is telling you the truth?

[–] CottonSeed@slrpnk.net 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I assume the facts are right in most media. it's the framing you gotta watch out for.

[–] bramblepatchmystery@slrpnk.net 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why would you assume the facts reported by the media wing of the government funding one of the sides being reported on is accurate?

Don't you agree that these leftists posting should wait until independent media verifies Qatar's claims before it gets posted?

[–] CottonSeed@slrpnk.net 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

fact checking is too easy and ubiquitous to think you can just lie about the facts, so innuendo and framing are the really pernicious aspects of modern propaganda thats framed as news. so, no, I don't think it's necessary to wait.

[–] bramblepatchmystery@slrpnk.net 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You don't think it is necessary to fact check authoritarian governments before believing what they tell you?

Wow. Just sit in that for a little bit.

[–] CottonSeed@slrpnk.net 1 points 8 months ago

Wow. Just sit in that for a little bit.

this is an appeal to ridicule. it's not a rebuttal.

[–] CottonSeed@slrpnk.net 1 points 8 months ago

what have they published that has been proven to be false?

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