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Chinese Science Fiction Before The Three Body Problem - JSTOR Daily
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Sci-Fi is fantastic. Of course there have been authors in China imagining the future since forever.
The Three Body Problem was an interesting book, and the series as a whole explores the Dark Forest theory really well.
But Cixian Liu pushed some weird stuff when it comes to gender. In the books, the entire male gender becomes "feminized" due to prolonged peace time, and this apparently makes humanity in aggregate docile, to the point that they make the "mistake" of electing a woman into a position of power that she won't be able to handle. Because she's a woman. The book makes it very clear that what is needed, is a man, not that simply this one woman is the wrong person for the job.
The entire series ends on a man absolving this same woman of responsibility for dooming humanity, he literally mansplains to her how because she's a woman, it can't be her fault. She can't blame herself for being incapable of doing what a man could have.
Very good sci-fi. But the plot gets weird and uncomfortable.
Edit: typo, book instead of books, making it seem like I'm referring to plotlines in the first book, when I'm in fact referring to stuff in the second, and the trilogy in general.
I managed to get through the first book but it was embedded cultural mores like that that made it tough going for me. That’s probably a shortcoming in me more than any fault of the book—science fiction should take you to places that challenge you—but it wasn’t worth it for me personally.
The story explores some very intriguing concepts, (ftl travel, multi-dimensional space, dark forest theory, technological explosions, planck-tech, the list goes on) but I had the same problem. I listened to the audio book, so I had the benefit of mentally tuning in and out as the story waxed and waned.
The second book especially had something which really annoyed me. Mister main character has to save the world but he doesn't wanna so the government tells him he can have whatever he wants so he asks for the perfect woman.
And then they just give him that? Her entire character is just that she's perfect and loves him and apparently that's real, she's not pretending? The fuck? The story almost instantly jumps to them having children and I was reeling because holy fuck I have never seen a female character be so thinly presented and objectified. She's literally payment for main charachter man to do what the government wants.
Then when they need to control MC boy again, they do it by taking this girl away from him. She's literally treated like a "thing" that can be taken and given. Whose love can be switched on on demand, and whose free will/wishes automatically matches whatever the men around her/plot demands.