Neither. The left/right divide is Socialism/Capitalism. There are various Overton Windows, ie what is considered left or right when compared to an areas median, like Liberalism being left of the American median despite being a right-wing, Capitalist ideology.

Anarchism, Communism, Marxism, and other forms of Socialism are leftist, while Liberalism, Social Democracy, and fascism are rightist.

[–] SexWithDogs@infosec.pub -3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (7 children)

Uh. Okay. If you say so. I wasn't going to say anything about the No True Scotsman fallacy, but you really did force my hand with that last one. That's outright silly, and a pretty vile attempt to coerce conformity out of of other progressives who don't align with your perspective on economics by thinking you can label them "right-wing" for it.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago (6 children)

How would you propose left/right be divided, if not by the commonly accepted mechanics by which they differ?

[–] SexWithDogs@infosec.pub -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I'm so glad you asked.

commonly accepted mechanics

I'm beginning to feel a little gas-lit.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That refers to the Overton Window, as you can see it's generally just vibes, and not actual measurable mechanics.

[–] SexWithDogs@infosec.pub -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Right. I must've missed that because I don't care about this conversation at all. Labels were never my thing to begin with. But you can call me right-wing if it makes you feel better, as long as I get to keep my trans boyfriend.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You asked me, so I answered. Personally, I think left/right is hopelessly reductive, it ties too many unrelated things together, and says nothing of social views, of which you're presumably very progressive despite right wing economic views.

That's why I wouldn't call you "right wing" before I called you a liberal, which I'm sure we are both comfortable with.

[–] SexWithDogs@infosec.pub -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hey, you're the expert.

I personally couldn't care less about economics. There are too many things to be right and passionate about for me to start worrying about all that theoretical insanity.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

That's fine, never said you had to.

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