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Electron is a widely hated framework on Linux, but what about the alternatives like Neutralinojs?

In their own words: In Electron and NWjs, you have to install Node.js and hundreds of dependency libraries. Embedded Chromium and Node.js make simple apps bloaty — in most scenarios, framework weights more than your app source. Neutralinojs offers a lightweight and portable SDK which is an alternative for Electron and NW.js. Neutralinojs doesn't bundle Chromium and uses the existing web browser library in the operating system (Eg: gtk-webkit2 on Linux). Neutralinojs implements a secure WebSocket connection for native operations and embeds a static web server to serve the web content. Also, it offers a built-in JavaScript client library for developers.

Do you experience alternatives like Njs to blend more in the desktop layout, install less junk, use less memory, are more compatible with Wayland,...?

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[–] nyan@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Which is why Electron reminds me of a little kid who's just done some extremely difficult but utterlly pointless thing.

Websites belong in a browser. If it doesn't work in any random standards-compliant browser, then you should be delivering it as a true native application, not some horrific fiji-mermaid-esque hybrid.

[–] moreeni@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

You are talking as if all people can make a native app with the same knowledge and amount of effort as it would take to develop a website.

Sometimes, web developers would want to go further with their app and deliever "native" functionality. Sometimes, a person wants to build an app but only happens to know how to build a website.

It's a much more complicated matter than just some idiots deciding "let's build an utterly pointless thing and then let other idiots build horrific fiji-mermaid-esque hybrids!!".

https://asylum.madhouse-project.org/blog/2018/10/26/Walking-in-my-shoes/

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Generally, my view is if it's an electron app it's going to be a crap user experience.

You are talking as if all people can make a native app with the same knowledge and amount of effort as it would take to develop a website.

No, not all people can't do that, but I think they should learn. It will lead to better results. Or are you saying that web developers are inherently incapable of developing native applications?

[–] mamotromico@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

Honestly it varies a lot. I’m the kind of user that would rather have self contained apps (even if electron) whenever possible instead of new browser tabs/windows. So unless a electron app is notoriously bad, I’d rather have it avilable than not

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