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Conservatism or fear-mongering (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 year ago by Solumbran@lemmy.world to c/conservative@lemm.ee
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To my knowledge, the concept of "conservatism" is the will to conserve, preserve past values that are seen as superior. While I don't agree with this either, this community has almost exclusively posts about fearing new things and trying to show them as evil. Evil migrants, evil new generations, evil new sexualities, whatever.

I do not see any "values" in it, only fear. Rejecting migrants is not based on morals or values that are rational, but on fear. Same for the rest. Which leads to the question, what is the point of this community? It does not lead to debate, people calling it out as fascism on one side (which is quite justified as the root ideas are seemingly identical) and the other side just saying that it's wrong and that's it. There's no debate of values, as there are no values to debate about.

I do not agree with the concept of conservatism, and I couldn't care less if this place is forever doomed to be downvoted in oblivion. But if you actually want to do something else than fear-mongering, even if you insist on talking about conservatism, then maybe it would be a good idea to refocus the community on actual ideas, and not the typical far-right speeches of hatred and fear that already flood a lot of media.

Of course I believe that it would be better to reconsider opinions that basically encourage the worst of humanity; but even aside from that, there is more to do than to replace every possibility of a conversation with the (stereo)typical "immigrants bad, jesus good, gays evil" speech.

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[โ€“] yesman@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (20 children)

Capital c Conservatism is about hierarchy. Hierarchies of race, gender, sexuality, or whatever. Any category imaginable must fit into an order with some on the top who rule over the masses at the bottom. Egalitarian ideals like democracy are disgusting to the Conservative, unless the franchise is exclusive to the "right" people.

God, guns, country, freedom, and capitalism are trends that come and go, but from Edmond Berk to Jordan Peterson, hierarchy is the throughline.

[โ€“] TJD@sh.itjust.works -1 points 11 months ago

This is just overwhelmingly false on just about every manner. Try getting your information from somewhere other than r/politics

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