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America’s premier pronatalists on having ‘tons of kids’ to save the world: ‘There are going to be countries of old people starving to death’ (www.theguardian.com)
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The highlight for me is coming up with some weird pseudoscience justification for why it’s okay to hit your kids.

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[–] maol@awful.systems 46 points 6 months ago (9 children)

They bought this house and the one next door for $575,000; they allow their neighbours to live in the second house rent free, in exchange for childcare.

Seems normal !

[–] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 55 points 6 months ago (4 children)

This is part of a whole thing where the journalist keeps presenting their framing without question. Is it “allow their neighbours to live in the second house rent free, in exchange for childcare” or is it “they have unpaid live-in nannies in a staff apartment”? Do they “give everything they can spare to charity” or are they landlords who own property they don’t live in? Is she wearing a corset and chemise from etsy because it’s practical, or because these weirdos have put on staged cosplay performances for every journalist who’s ever interviewed them, and you’re no exception?

[–] slopjockey@awful.systems 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is part of a whole thing where the journalist keeps presenting their framing without question.

Yuuup, and at no point is it explicitly mentioned that what they're doing is entirely unfeasible on a societal level. How on Earth will a couple dozen rationalist having 4, 7, or even 11 kids make up for the hundreds of millions of women in America having 1.5? Or the billions of women having under 2.1 kids in the rest of the world.

On top of that, they only have 3 kids and they've already put a shit ton of time and sunk themselves over half a million in debt just for housing and childcare. I absolutely believe these two can afford it, but this isn't something most Americans can achieve, much less most global families. One couple trying to outfuck global population decline would be like if I tried to end global poverty by becoming really, really rich.

[–] maol@awful.systems 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

like if I tried to end global poverty by becoming really, really rich.

I have some exciting news for you. Have you ever heard of "effective altruism"?

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