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[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago (7 children)

To nibble further at the arguments for God: free will is absurd.

If god is all knowing and all powerful, then when he created the universe, he would know exactly what happened from the first moment until the last. Like setting up an extremely complex arrangement of dominoes.

So how could he give people free will? Maybe he created some kind of special domino that sometimes falls leftward and sometimes falls rightward, so now it has "free will". Ok, but isn't that just randomness? God's great innovation is just chance?

No, one might argue, free will isn't chance, it's more complex than that, a person makes decisions based on their moral principles, their life experience, etc. Well where did they get their principles? What circumstances created their life experience? Conditions don't appear out of nowhere. We get our DNA from somewhere. Either God controls the starting conditions and knows where they lead, or he covered his eyes and threw some dice. In either case we can say "yes, I have free will" in the sense that we do what we want, but the origins of our decisions are either predetermined or subject to chaos/chance.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 3 points 6 months ago (6 children)

A good read on the inverse of what you're stating, namely that free will is logical:

https://www.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/writing/prose/text/godTaoist.html

[–] skulblaka@startrek.website 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That was an excellent read, thank you!

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 points 6 months ago

You're welcome!

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