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[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (11 children)

So LLM-based AI is apparently such a dead end as far as non-spam and non-party trick use cases are concerned that they are straight up rolling out anti-features that nobody asked or wanted just to convince shareholders that ground breaking stuff is still going on, and somewhat justify the ocean of money they are diverting that way.

At least it's only supposed to work on PCs that incorporate so-called neural processor units, which if I understand correctly is going to be its own thing under a Windows PC branding.

edit: Yud must love that instead of his very smart and very implementable idea of the government enforcing strict regulations on who gets to own GPUs and bombing non-compliants we seem to instead be trending towards having special deep learning facilitating hardware integrated in every new device, or whatever NPUs actually are, starting with iPhones and so-called Windows PCs.

edit edit: the branding appears to be "Copilot+ PCs" not windows pcs.

[–] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 11 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Since this isn’t really even related to GenAI at all, in our house the theory is:

  • MS has been trying and failing to push ARM in PCs for a while
  • Now they take one with an NPU and rebrand it as Copilot+™️®️ PCs
  • They have market research that says initial sales are going to be soft and they panic because early soft sales create a bad vibe
  • So, without doing any of the usual build up of exciting the tech press, without hyping trade show buzz, they rush an unfinished, insecure, unwanted product to market in the hope it will be the killer app at last for high-battery life ARM on Windows.
  • They use lot of AI hype language to capitalize off the hype cycle, even though besides the OCR it seems to be pretty limited in its relationship to anything machine learning at all.
[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

this isn’t really even related to GenAI at all

Besides the ocr there appears to be all sorts of image-to-text metadata recorded, the nadella demo had the journalist supposedly doing a search and getting results with terms that were neither typed at the time nor appearing in the stored screenshots.

Also, I thought they might be doing something image-to-text-to-image-again related (which - I read somewhere - was what bing copilot did when you asked it to edit an image) to save space, instead of storing eleventy billion multimonitor screenshots forever.

edit - in the demo the results included screens.

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