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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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another banger from Roko, definitely a thinker of a time. I would first guess that this time it was a trans woman he came onto and she kicked him in the nuts (x.com)

submitted 5 months ago by dgerard@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems

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Women have two niches in life: looking beautiful and making babies

The first niche will be taken by sexbots

The second by artificial wombs

Society will suddenly realize it doesn't need women and those in power will quickly start replacing and disempowering them.

People like to consider the positive implications of technology but they don't like to consider the negative implications

The smart strategy for women would be to ban ALL of the following:

sexbots

artificial wombs

trans women

Nobody except women should be allowed to look sexy(feminine sexy), look female or bear children.

To some extent TERF women like @jk_rowling are smart enough to realize that it's essential to defend the female monopoly on this stuff. But the average woman just isn't strategic enough to go along with this, and there's (as always) a collective action problem so you get defectors.

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[–] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 11 points 5 months ago (5 children)

But what’s the point of being a trans woman in his narrative? Trans women will also be replaced by uterine replicators and sexbots! They will also be disempowered and sent to the salt mines with the cis women! That’s the part I find inexplicable.

I can see there’s a shitty faux-feminist idea that cis women will be replaced by trans women, like an XX chromosome is inherently inferior (so feminist!) and anyone with both a superior XY genome & a nice rack will obviously be a threat. But in this case Roko’s own argument says that robots are superior to flesh, so trans women aren’t the threat.

I realize that I’m trying to find logic in something that’s so beyond dumb it’s come out the other side into a sort of sublime form of perfection, but at least the basilisk follows some bizarre internal logic. This one is self contradictory. Is it so much to ask that I want misogynist and transphobic assholes to understand how to build a basic logical argument?!?

[–] cstross@wandering.shop 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

@gnomicutterance The basilisk is just an AI rip-off of Dispensationalist Satan. So it's not surprising that Roko's position on women echoes that of the most reactionary strains of Christian thought.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The basilisk is explicitly the Good AI, doing this for the good of all humanity! It's just unfortunate that requires putting Roko into a locker over and over for eternity

[–] ndevenish@mas.to 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

@dgerard @sneerclub techbro voodoo dolls

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 5 months ago

i'm sorry Mr Mijic, your tamagotchi is not going to have a good day

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