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‘He was understandably frustrated and distraught by the present and on-going erosions to our constitutionally protected freedoms and the rights of free citizens’

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[–] sparseMatrix@kbin.social 67 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (26 children)

There are a lot of people who would like you to think that disinformation is harmless; that if you buy into bullshit that it's your own fault; and that the 'people that matter' know the truth.

This man bought into the fire hose of shit that is continuously, endlessly spewing a mixture of exaggerations, half truths and outright lies. He took it all very seriously, and he paid with his life.

Ask yourself, do you think this man was one of the 'people who matter' to his family? It sounds like some of them agree with, and listened to him and the fire hose.

This is a fucking tragedy. This man is a casualty of the fight for democracy, and it is a damn fight when people are getting shot for it. Not because he bought into some bullshit; but because he was fed a line of shit by people he trusted. His political party.

This has got to stop, and I think that it surely will.

Let's hope it doesn't have to be at the expense of another man's life.

Another husband, father, grandfather, uncle or brother. Or worse, whole families.

[–] kelvin0mql@mastodon.hams.social 37 points 1 year ago (24 children)

@sparseMatrix
Choosing whom to trust (& listen to) is a moral choice, much more so than a political or philosophical choice.

Fam saying “he would never” are lying or naïve. He pointed a gun @ FBI agents. He would never?! Oh yes he fucking would, because he fucking did.

Rule # 1: Never point a weapon @ anything you don’t intend to destroy.

Repeated regularly by 2A folks.

He chose amoral violence, tragically. A greater tragedy will be if his fam&friends consider him a martyr.

[–] sparseMatrix@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (7 children)

@kelvin0mql

I do not question any of that. My point is, the republican party has been stirring this pot a long time, and as long as the money keeps pouring, they cant be arsed, as the brits say.

It's got to be stopped at the source. We're already at the point that guys are like this everywhere. One stands in the foyer of the Kroger just about every afternoon 3 blocks from my house.

Wearing a ball cap with a thin blue line flag, armed to the teeth, in a flag-wrapped t-shirt, glaring at anyone who walks by with a smile their face.

His body language, the sidearm he's wearing, his clothes - it all screams that if you're aren't mad as hell and not going to take it anymore, you must be a fuckin' democrat.

That is a feature of the republican party. If it isn't addressed soon, some sort of war will be the only way it gets addressed.

[–] kelvin0mql@mastodon.hams.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@sparseMatrix
Bingo. That guy is a perfect example of the one big favor that #McTurtle & #IQ45 have done this nation. They made many of these amoral shits bold enough to stand up & be recognized.

Now we know who many of them are. Never trust them. Oppose them @ every opportunity. Tax their churches & their billionaire leaders.

There’s a great Jon Stewart quote that won’t fit here, because 500bytes, so it will be in my next reply…

[–] kelvin0mql@mastodon.hams.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@sparseMatrix
“You’ve heard it said ‘The arc of the moral universe is long and bends toward justice.’ But it doesn’t bend towards justice by gravity, you have to bend it. And there’s a bunch of people trying to bend it back.”

- - Jon Stewart

[–] kelvin0mql@mastodon.hams.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@sparseMatrix
This dude in the news who was righteously, justifiably dropped by FBI agents spent a lifetime trying to convince his family, friends, et al, that his hatred & racism was correct. The GOP is made from the ground up by people who are this vile, or are totally OK with their associates being this vile.

I shed not one goddamned tear. I have zero fucks to give.

#GOPisNAZI
#WWJD? Well he wouldn’t be a Nazi, I’d bet my life on that.

[–] sparseMatrix@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@kelvin0mql

Lets be clear - I am not making any kind of defense of this guy; I am eviscerating the GOP for creating and sustaining an environment that keeps that guy squarely where they want him, and operate that firehose of falsehood that suck new people into the rotten fold on an ongoing basis.

[–] kelvin0mql@mastodon.hams.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@sparseMatrix
Understood & agreed.

I just don’t consider his death a tragedy in quite the same way I’m inferring you do. I feel bad for the FBI agents if they suffer any emotional discomfort for doing the right, necessary thing.

I don’t suggest we euthanize all GOPers. But if they volunteer like this ass did, then fine. Natural Selection do your thing.

#MaybePartlyKidding

[–] sparseMatrix@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

@kelvin0mql

As my dad used to say, "You can't live with a grizzly bear. One of you will have to go."

[–] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Now we know who many of them are. Never trust them.

This is how I feel about people wearing swastikas and such. It’s a handy “warning label”. It’s like a blinking sign over their head that says DO NOT ENGAGE, BUT KEEP AN EYE ON ME.

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