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[–] SamC@lemmy.nz 100 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (58 children)

it’s a major flaw and I hope it gets addressed as lemmy/fediverse evolves, or else it’s not going to work

Defederation is an important tool for admins (e.g. if a server full of nazis appears, we want it to be defederated immediately).

Hopefully admins realise over time it's stupid to defederate over trivial stuff, and it causes users to revolt and possibly a decline in your server's activity.

Also, make sure you complain to your admin if they do this, or just leave and go to a new server.

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 35 points 1 year ago (57 children)

(e.g. if a server full of nazis appears, we want it to be defederated immediately).

This seems obvious to everyone else, but not to me. Why would we want to do that instead of just dealing with them one by one when needed or just individually blocking communities/users?

I'm extremely uncomfortable with an authority deciding for me what I may see in my feed and what not.

[–] geissi@feddit.de 42 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The problem for those operating a Lemmy instance is that they are hosting copies of the content of all federated instances.
So if one instance is filled with illegal content, the admins of all federated instances must remove it on their instances to avoid law enforcement kicking down their doors.

If there is too much illegal content on one instance to effectively moderate manually, defederation is the solution.

This is beside the fact, that some might have their own additional non-legally mandated requirements for content they host on their platform.

[–] Grander@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem for those operating a Lemmy instance is that they are hosting copies of the content of all federated instances.
If that's genuinely the way it works, it seems really dumb.

[–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Grander@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Fetch data from instances you're trying to access, rather than hosting everything on all servers. That seems like a quick way to get half the fediverse defederated from each other.

[–] Claidheamh@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

That's exactly what happens. But you have to store the fetched data on your instance if you want to display it there.

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