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Ahhh man, you guys are going to make me take a few hours to shred this article. Alrighty. cracks knuckles
This article uses 3 definitions of noise:
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First of all, the link to "hurt children's brains" as mentioned in the title is hyperbole; they are talking about distraction in the majority of the article. Yes, noise distracting. How much noise?
record scratch
35db?
Yeah, so basically everything. A distinguished fart for example.
The exposure time for hearing loss at 85db is 8 hours. That is a lot of continuous noise. I don't record 85db INSIDE my old rickety car, let alone a classroom in residential zone 200' away.
I think there is a dangerous disconnect between what this article calls cognitive harm and distraction. They are not interchangeable. It would make sense distracted children score lower on tests than non-distracted peers, but I wouldn't call that harm. As someone with ADD, I take great offense in likening the two. In fact, if this article were rewritten as "traffic noise distraction for students" it would be MUCH more believable.
I was diagnosed when I kept looking at a air vent every time the building's heater fan kicked in. Traffic was never a problem. Why? Because traffic sound becomes white noise. White noise actually helped me and many in my position focus. What did stand out were what the article calls "sudden fluctuations"
Congrats! You discovered ADD!
This article is filled with so many qualifiers "may", "could", "suggests", "potentially" to vaguely link real science to assumptions. They want a connection that doesn't exist; these words obfuscate libel. Ignore anything with any of these for it's junk.
Sounds like these worked. The sound absorbing is probably a great way to go. Double pane windows help a ton too. Try noise canceling headphones as well!
I actually found this sort of interesting and would like to know more about it, particularly a % increase, but it was paywalled. It could be minuscule for all I know.
See decibel graphic above. Commence slow clap and thumbs up on their cough significance.
Sound like you may have grown up somewhere loud. Out here, 35db and below is normal. It's that quiet outside at night, in most houses, in classrooms etc.
Obviously the occasional fart and talking student isn't part of external noise pollution
Swing and a miss. No biggie.
Grew up off the beaten path with redwoods and a creek in the backyard.
You never went to school or grocery shopping? I mean more than just the house you lived in
Preschool was on a hill next to a cemetery. (Really creepy now that I think about it) Elementary was next to orchards, middle school by a post office and community center, high school had more traffic nearby but still never a distraction.
I don't live there anymore, more big city vibes, but it's all background sound.
Of sounds that stand out right now, we have airplanes and sirens as the distractions. Car noise is insignificant.
oh that's really nice