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[–] FBJimmy@lemmus.org 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

If Newey ends up at Ferrari in time to design their 2026 car, Hamilton has either lucked into a second stunning career move or he's known all along...

[–] cooltrainer_frank@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Man, that move to Merc looked sooooo dumb from the outside, and it was obviously one of (or the) best F1 career move there's ever been.

If he gets that right twice, Ham is 100% the goat of career management

[–] egonallanon@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The complete opposite to Alonso's career moves.

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 6 points 6 months ago

Alonso if Hamilton wins at Ferrari

Ya, I could have won at the Ferrari. But I didn't want to. Now Lewis is enjoying my legacy. I'm berry happy for him.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

LISAN AL GAIB!

[–] Knuschberkeks@feddit.de 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You know not all of Neweys cars were quick, right?

[–] FBJimmy@lemmus.org 1 points 6 months ago

Of course, but his cars have won around 40% of all WDC over the past 30ish years, and his record around major new aero regulations is exceptional:

  • 1998: Two back-to-back WDC from first season
  • 2009: Four back-to-back WDC from second season
  • 2022: Two (soon to be three) back-to-back WDC from first season
[–] hsr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

End of an era, whether he retires or moves.

Remember that teams will only be allowed to work on their 2026 car from the start of 2025 and new regulations aren't even finalized. Red Bull will be developing the aero without Newey, and are working on the new engine without Honda. Some exciting times coming, hopefully.

[–] SatouKazuma@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Red Bull about to join Williams as backmarkers.

[–] jimbolauski@lemm.ee -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

As much as I hate RB's dominance I just want two or three teams to be in mix.

[–] soEZ@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I think its never fun to have any dominant team ... Even if you are a fan of that team. Its great to see your favorites win, but it blows if there is no real competition or turns into teammate death match. Seeing great teamwork and seen close competion is way more fun. 2021 season was quiet fantastic to watch (except end of that last race).. 2022 was kind of nice too as there was hope and tems moving around, but 23 was a lost cause at the front and 24 seems to be repeat of 23...the midfield was alot more fun in 22/23 as well but not so at end of 23 and 24 it seems there is alot less going on there...

[–] UESPA_Sputnik@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Remember that teams will only be allowed to work on their 2026 car from the start of 2025

Genuine question: how is this even policed? You can't stop people from thinking about solutions already.

[–] hsr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No, you can't stop engineers from testing aero in their heads, but I would imagine teams are required to keep logs and documentation of development work/wind tunnel time/computer simulations for FIA to inspect at any time. It's nothing new either, each team has a wind tunnel time and CFD allocation per season, and there's no development allowed over the summer break. I suppose in the end you have to trust that FIA is enforcing these rules properly, but you can never know for sure.

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

Iirc Wind Tunnel time usually is monitored by having FIA personnel present at the wind tunnel. But I may be wrong on that

[–] wes@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

With all this mess at Red Bull (power struggle, Horner's escapade, Newey leaving, Max probably leaving soonish) i really wonder if Ford still wants to work together with Red Bull.

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago

Well Ford was very unhappy with how the Horner investigation went. But in the end they'd just put their logo on a RB engine anyways, so it's not like they're closely working together or somerhing.

[–] baru@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Newey leaving

In his book he mentions that the team is really important. He wants to have the ability to be able to determine how a team works. Ensure that people can speak up, not too much politics, etc.

Pretty sure the power struggles together with Honer resulted in Newey deciding this will impact making a good car.

He left a team ages ago because they didn't inform him about some driver thing. Him leaving now should not come as a surprise.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If Newey chooses Ferrari and wins a championship with them he will be treated like a king. They will appreciate his efforts and will treat him with all the respect and gratitude he deserves. It would be a fitting final legacy for a stellar career. The toughest challenge.

[–] LaVacaMariposa@mander.xyz 3 points 6 months ago

Why would you say that and give me hope?

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This is corroborated by multiple media, including Autosport, BBC, Motorsport-Total, etc. Newey will be gone from Red Bull at the start of 2025, maybe even earlier than that. All modalities (gardening leave?) have been agreed on, though they arent public yet. Red Bull will announce the departure at the start of the Miami weekend.

[Andrew Benson from BBC]: "He (Adrian Newey) has been made offers by Ferrari and Aston Martin. I’m told by sources close to him that he is seriously considering Ferrari but is not interested in going to Aston Martin."

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 1 points 6 months ago

So what is happening with Horner? Are they investigating him still?

[–] idk_a_cool_username@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

people talking about him moving to another team for 2025 or 2026. But isn't there something in the contract that prevents him from working for another team for a few years?

[–] baru@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I saw multiple answers on that. One said that the garden leave could start immediately. Then the non compete would start now instead of when his contract ends. Though another said that a non compete would only begin when his contract ends.

Anyway, I guess one answer is right. πŸ˜‚

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

Well supposedly there also was something in his contract that said he was to work at RBR for the 2025 season, and he managed to cut that short.. so who knows