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iPhone 15 Models Have 'Completely Standard' USB-C Port Without Restrictions on Accessories::Apple's new iPhone 15, iPhone 15 Plus, iPhone 15 Pro, and iPhone 15 Pro Max are equipped with a "completely standard" USB-C port without...

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[–] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

"W00T, THE BARE MINIMUM, TAKE THAT GOOGLE" *Apple fans, still stuck, like, in 2017

[–] Rootiest@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What really blows my mind is not that the lower-end models have USB2.0 speeds, but that all iPhones always have in the past.

Lighting truly was ancient.

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apple actually upgraded Lightning to USB 3.0 speeds for the first (and second?) generation iPad Pro. There's a official USB 3 "camera adapter" (essentially a Lightning to USB-A + Lightning passthrough for charging dongle) that works with these iPads at 3.0 speeds.

That was a very short run though, I don't even think Apple ever released a Lightning to USB-A/C cable with 3.0 speeds.

[–] Rootiest@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Neat I didn't know that

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course the top comment is some "Apple vs. Google" garbage.

[–] evident5051@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't say that I've seen any comment like this where the user wasn't being sarcastic.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] evident5051@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope not, otherwise I have been charging myself the wrong way for decades!

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 7 points 1 year ago

It says “bot” next to your username for me in the Lemmy app. I think that’s why they asked lol. Beep boop

[–] abcd@feddit.de 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For now…

Also the article states the lower price models will get 480Mbits, the more expensive ones will get 10Gbits. There is your artificial limitation. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the same hardware inside

[–] alphapuggle@programming.dev 66 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Older chip doesn't have a 3.0 controller. While disappointing, not really an artificial limit

(Android fan btw)

[–] TheMadnessKing@lemdro.id 7 points 1 year ago

Well, they decided to stick to USB 2 instead of USB 3.2 for their base model, despite the high cost of the phone.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why do all iphone articles currently have this picture of a toilet seat?

:-)

[–] IDew@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

I cannot unsee this now lmfao

[–] steven@feddit.nl 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

But how many people actually use this port for data transfer in uses cases where speed is vital? I haven’t transferred anything to my iPhone by cable since 2015 or something.

[–] eee@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Actually that's one of the frustrations I had with my old iphone. I don't want to install itunes and sync stuff, I just want to connect my phone and transfer that one file from my friend's computer.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 year ago

With Android you can transfer data to a new phone over a direct USB C to C cable connection

[–] Madeyro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

I for example loathe every time I need to do some kind of file transfer for my wifes iPhone, and I have a macbook from work.

Just let me open the phone and do my thing. No, you have to have everything in sync everywhere.

[–] anlumo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The bigger question is, will developers be able to talk to their USB-C equipment without an MFi chip?

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 year ago

Yup, the ability to connect stuff and power it means very little if Apple doesn't let you interact with it, they still have full control over drivers and APIs

[–] Cookie1990@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Linus from LTT had a good idea where this comes from, the Apple Silicon in this generation of iPhone doesnt have a better usb controler. That could explain it, the time from defining a cpu to the first device are 4-5 years.

[–] Player2@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Surely with all the space they saved by removing the headphone port, they could get a controller in there

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not just the controller, it's the bandwidth to the CPU too. The old controller was limited to USB 2 speeds and Apple probably wasn't planning to expose more on that port.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

They're using an apb node of the main axi bus, they need to promote usb to a full axi node or put it on a faster clocked apb node.

Power Islanding, but also the IP isn't drop in, if they're using synopsys there's a few changes they have to make, it's a much bigger block.

[–] echoplex21@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So no more MFI badges on accessories?

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

As the report notes, it is still possible that Apple will launch a "Made for iPhone" certification program for iPhone accessories with a USB-C port, but it appears that uncertified accessories will work just fine with the devices.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

Still no thunderbolt