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Sunak comes across like the prat he is. “Labor will raise taxes by £2,000 for everybody” regardless of the question. Talking over all the time, not listening to the moderator. Appalling creature. Starmer sympathises a lot with people asking questions without answering them. Skating around or just plainly ignoring questions all the time. I can’t watch this shit a minute longer.

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[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 21 points 5 months ago

Not watching any of it. I already know what they're going to say and it would just make me cross.

[–] JohnSmith@feddit.uk 14 points 5 months ago

Just to be clear, I did not want to make any points about politics, just rant about the quality of the debate of the people who want to lead.

[–] snaprails@feddit.uk 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I avoided seeing it. As I remarked to a similar post in Another Place, were you expecting anything different?

[–] JohnSmith@feddit.uk 13 points 5 months ago

Naively I was hoping for something a bit more civilised. All I got was a notch up in blood pressure.

[–] TedZanzibar@feddit.uk 6 points 5 months ago

I think Labour has already pledged not to raise taxes, but let's play devil's advocate and pretend that they were going to slap a £2000 on everyone of working age.

Doing some fuzzy maths based on statistics I can find online from 2 years ago, that's roughly 45 million people, or £90 billion a year. Or to put in into the Brexit campaign's favourite terms, £1.7 billion per week going into public coffers.

I'm not suggesting such a flat structure would actually make sense as a policy, but that maybe tax rises as a concept aren't always a universally bad thing.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Starmer was an awful debater yet he still looked good compared to Sunak...