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[–] capyking@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i had left firefox for a while due to the google ecosystem but i’m happy i came back to it.

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Same. I have switched between the two several times, but I started on Firefox for a long time before switching, and now I've been back on Firefox for at least 5 years. There was definitely a good stretch of chrome in the early 2010s though.

Firefox is well clear by now. I'm also using the Android version, and I think it's great.

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[–] Extra_Cucumber_2979@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I just love reading post like this, congrats Firefox and f*** Google!

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (22 children)

As long as they can't manage to make a half-decent mobile browser this hardly matters.

Performance improvements are nice and all, but unless the performance is truely terrible, it's the least relevant factor.

Much more importent are:

  • consistently good UX over all platforms, together with good sync
  • good support for all websites

Their Android version is completely useless since the reboot (which is especially sad since the version before was hands down the best UX for a mobile browser on the market). They even dropped their VR version, even though it was literally just their Android version with slightly adjusted UX. They don't even have any form of tablet UI or Android TV UI.

And since their market share is steadily approaching zero, more and more websites drop support for FF and it's noticable.

The support part is what really kills FF, since it's not really in their hands whether web devs test websites with FF.

Lower market share -> less support -> lower market share.

Especially users who "just want the browser to work" are affected by that. They don't care much about the browser, but about the websites. And if their favourite websites tell them to stop using FF, they will. And that kind of user makes up the biggest part of the market share.

And since FF has no platform where they can push their browser (contrary to all other major browsers), they also won't get new users.

As much as we would want it otherwise, FF is dead, they just haven't accepted it yet. And that's true for almost all Mozilla products and Mozilla itself.

The only way I see how this can be reversed is if e.g. the EU decides that Mozilla and/or its products have some special value and starts funding and pushing them.

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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Damn that's huge improvements in a relatively short span of time. I'm just waiting for more features on Firefox Android.

[–] pungunner@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Be aware that Firefox Android supports addons. So maybe there is already a fix...

[–] Extrahammer@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Seriously, I learned Firefox supports addons on mobile and suddenly the Internet became useable again on my old smartphone. Ads made browsing for me borderline impossible.

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[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 9 points 1 year ago (7 children)

What features are you missing?

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[–] outdated_belated@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can anyone verify that this is also true for platforms beyond windows (what is plotted in the link by default)?

(I tried to change the plot to show macOS and Linux, but the plotting site is dubiously functional on mobile, plus there are a bewildering number of plot options with long, confusing names).

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