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(Please when answering, assume I’m not a beginner at privacy/programming :) I know where the good stuff at)

First off, shameful confession: I’m writing this on a dying yellow iPhone XR I bought second-hand three years ago (189€). I absolutely love the look of it: the screen, build quality, are all amazing. The only problem was the locked ecosystem (sideloading Spotify/Torrent client was sooo hard).

I saw the android phone of my mother dying really fast. She currently has a Xiaomi phone that’s ridiculously big for my hands, there’s advertisements in the stocks apps (?!!), the UX is janky and everything. It looks like a bloat, privacy nightmare.

So… because it’s impossible to find a jailbreakable phone nowadays I need to buy an android and ideally I would want:

  • Good screen (vivid colors)
  • Good build quality (not shitty plastic)
  • Don’t care about the camera (I don’t want those ridiculously big cameras they make nowadays)
  • Would want to install either GrapheneOS/LineageOS

The things that scare me off:

  • I really need my bank app and I need it updated so I have to use Google Play Services but I don’t want it to plague my phone with privacy bullshit (I want to be degoogled)

The things that excite me:

  • Customization possibilities
  • Learning experience
  • Even more privacy than a de-googled IOS phone :)
  • F-Droid!! (Maybe I’ll find a beautiful IRC client)
  • More choices for Mastodon & Lemmy clients
  • Freedom of free software.
  • client for open-source git providers :)

But to get all of that, I don’t want Google, I need shitty apps (non-free software) I have to install:

  • Instagram (for non-technical friends)
  • GitHub (job & open-source)
  • No-Ad Modded Spotify from Balatan
  • Discord (gamer friends)
  • Telegram (cryptobros friends)
  • Steam (because I still love gaming)

Any advices? Phone ideas? I’m so lost in this ocean of choice (freedom ✨)

My current phone:

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[–] Undertaker@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Google phone for Graphene is mandatory therefore not my suggestion.

Lineage should not be your alternative as it is not privacy orientated. Take a look at Divest or /e/. There are many supported devices and in terms of privacy much better than Lineage. But in terms of security it is: Divest >> Lineage > /e/

You can check what devices are supported and which suits your needs best

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[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Check lineage's list of supported devices.

Though after 15 years of flashing phones, I'm now on the Pixel train. I love the plastic back on mine. Makes it lighter while also making it stronger. Plastic doesn't crack like glass or ceramic.

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[–] Chais@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Throwing Fairphone into the pot. They're well supported by LineageOS and have the additional advantage of being user-repairable.
But they only ship inside Europe.

[–] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

Havjng a look at CalyxOS may also be an option. It's another privacy android ROM, but it runs in more devices than just Pixels.

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Take the Fairphone over the Pixel since you're in Europe

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[–] greywolf0x1@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

everyone keeps mentioning Pixel Devices, but I'd personally never use one for the same reason I won't wear branded clothes

you should check out OnePlus devices, the bootloaders are easily unlocked and they've major LineageOS support, the phones also have a high quality build, if you like the form of your XR, definitely check out the OnePlus 8/8 pro or 9/9 pro

another option is if you can get any of the Samsung S10 models with an exynos chip, they also have strong build and are supported by lineageOS as well

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