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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 54 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Last two flags are in the wrong order. Not just chronologically, but with regards to causation too: the Nazis were heavily influenced by American racists.

An argument could be made for the American traitor flag to be on both sides of the swastika, but that would be pretty messy..

A Stars & Stripes with 48 stars would probably be too subtle..

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (12 children)

Hitler spoke about the American south and Jim Crow with reverence, he thought it should be a model for German racist policies.

This was something he wrote about in Mein Kampf.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Greater than just the South, the eugenics movement in the US in the early 20th century, with forced sterilizations and criminalizing interracial marriage, happened nationally.

Though you don't need to be capitalist to be racist as fuck. Racism exists all over the world in many different government and economic systems throughout all of human history

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[–] Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world 72 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power." - Benito Mussolini

[–] tromars@feddit.org 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I‘m not disagreeing with what you’re trying to convey but still: Mussolini very likely never said/wrote that, seems to have been misattributed. IF he did, the Italian word corporazioni, while technically translating to corporations, doesn’t refer to private companies, which in Italian are normally called società.

More info:

Facsism is just capitalism when you try to say no.

Understandably, workers didn't like capitalism. So, when they found out about socialism, many of them grouped up and tried to say no. After which, facsism was made to counter this.

So, I mean literally fascism is just capitalism when you try to say no. You only get mercan staal neo classical economics because you say yes.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It needs another frame showing that feudalism never went away. Capitalism is just a way to walk us all back to feudalism.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Not really. Capitalism was born from feudalism, but is entirely different in character.

[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Outside of small city states, capitalism came from merchantislism.

Specifically, at the intersection where merchantislism and mass dispossession/theft of people's land meet.

The only meaningful change is that the assets are now, mostly, intangible and you're allowed to move to a different parish.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago

Some people still think billionaires are just like us. They aren't. Their mentality is 100% different than the average person. Even basic things like their concept of money is extremely different and almost alien to ours. We think of money as the thing that we need to survive, the thing that keeps food on the table and a roof over our heads. Having a good deal of money for the average person is a source of comfort. It allows us to know we don't have to go hungry and we can afford medical care when we are sick.

For billionaires money is an abstract concept. They operate on such massive sums every day that the idea that a few thousand dollars can make or break someone is inconceivable to them. When Elon Musk bought twitter he was originally kidding, but when the owners forced him to, raising the 44 billion dollars did nothing to harm him. In fact, his net worth increased greatly not too long after he shelled out amounts of money that would literally have ended world hunger several times over. Money is a source of leveraging power for them and they aren't afraid to 'lose' a lot of it because they know they can get it all back with remarkable rapidity.

Borders also don't exist to them. If Zuckerberg or Bezos wanted to go to India, or Zambia, or China, or Germany, or Finland, or the UAE, or wherever, they doesn't have to concern themself with things like visas or residencies or whatever. They could go and set up shop wherever and not need to concern themselves with that.

They legit do think of themselves as being gods and are vastly superior to us. Their view of the poor being leeches on society while they are the providers when basically everything shows the opposite is not something they find contradictory. In their minds the population at large exists to serve them, not the other way around. This is why tech bro start ups that have created enclaves in some third world countries and they steal massive public resources for their projects all while imposing their own extra-legal or illegal restrictions on the poor is not seen as a problem because they really do view black and brown people as perpetual slaves that must be shown their place time and time again least they forget.

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[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago (6 children)
[–] Cyanocobalamin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Unsurprising .world comment

[–] reka@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Woo federation

[–] lol_idk@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 days ago

Not really, stereotypical would be having a liberal in the last frame

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 days ago (8 children)
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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 44 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Fascism is Capitalism's immune system, activated when the wealth gap gets too large.

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 43 points 4 days ago

Activated when the people get's too aware of the exploitation and begins fighting back

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

Maybe we shouldn't be using an economic system whose immune system has historically lead to genocide, especially in an age where nukes are now a thing.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 17 points 4 days ago
[–] theturtlemoves@hexbear.net 28 points 4 days ago

The CSA precedes the Nazis. In fact, Nazi race laws were partially based on slavery laws from the southern US.

[–] Amstro@lemm.ee 19 points 4 days ago (2 children)

In simpler terms, it's greed.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 23 points 4 days ago

That's too close to a "it's just human nature" asspull too often used to justify capitalistic skullduggery.

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[–] Lightrider@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago

Fuckingcapitalists

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