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[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

Its not fair to pick on liberals because they don't understand words or concepts like liberalism

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

If this was really the case then the onus would be leftists to articulate in simpler language. You can't mobilize the common folk if you can speak the common language.

But most of the time its either the liberals lack the prerequisite historical knowledge or they just have antiegalitarian values.

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

Also liberals in the comments: This is about me, specifically.

Also also liberals in the comments: Cracking jokes at the expense of liberals in the comments.


love y'all

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Guessing by OP the definition of liberal here is libertarian?

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The hegemonic ideology of the capitalist world. Here's the Wikipedia summary to give you something palatable. They don't mean "liberal" in the American sense of "Democrat-aligned".

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 6 points 1 month ago

Over time, the meaning of liberalism began to diverge in different parts of the world. According to the Encyclopædia Britannica: "In the United States, liberalism is associated with the welfare-state policies of the New Deal programme of the Democratic administration of Pres. Franklin D. Roosevelt, whereas in Europe it is more commonly associated with a commitment to limited government and laissez-faire economic policies."

Fucking Americans always gotta be different

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, a liberal, ie someone who espouses liberalism, the free market capitalist ideology. Libertarians are anti-state liberals.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Liberalism has one necessity of wanting a very limited government. The same as libertarian. Anti state would be anarchist?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism

the dominant form of libertarianism in the United States. This libertarianism, a revival of classical liberalism

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

no the definition of a liberal here is a liberal