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[–] daojones@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I wonder who is pushing this news story.

[–] hanabatake@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

What informations were released by China ? From the link:

  • US spent $200m in 26 labs
  • Russia says there are 30+
  • WHO asks destruction of it
  • China asks questions

It feels like they didn't share new intels

[–] kamikaze@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The claims for weapons being developed in these biolabs were proven false by a lot of news outlets and scientists. It seems like this has become a vapid talking point.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The claims for weapons being developed in these biolabs have not in fact been proven, and no independent verification ever happened. By proven you must mean US officials saying trust me. Two big questions for you:

If the US wants to prove its innocence, why doesn’t it open up these bio-labs for independent investigations by international experts?

Why does the US insist on being the only country in the world to oppose the establishment of a multilateral verification mechanism though it claims to abide by the BWC?

[–] kamikaze@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes exactly they have not been proven. We agree. No weapons. Just labs.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, we do not agree at all. We don't know what's in those labs, and US won't let independent investigators into these labs. If you don't understand why that's a problem what else is there to tell you really.

[–] kamikaze@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We agree completely, I agree with you, that we do not know. However, if you do research on this subject, you can read what independent journalists and scientists have to say and the likelihood of it being any kind of weapons is very low. We agree. You're just more skeptical and crossing into borderline conspiracy territory by not providing evidence to back up your skepticism. I will happily go into my search history and provide you links of well known scientists discussing this topic if you'd like.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Skepticism doesn't require evidence. The only party that needs to provide evidence is the US who operate these labs. All the following questions need clear answers:

  • If the international community's concerns are “disinformation”, why doesn’t the US release detailed materials to prove its innocence?
  • What did they spend the $200 million on?
  • What kind of research was conducted on which pathogens?
  • What kind of sensitive information about public health cannot be shared?
  • Does the Ukrainian side know what the US has been working on in Ukraine?
  • What is it trying to hide when the US Embassy in Ukraine deleted all relevant documents on its website?
  • Why does the US insist on being the only country in the world to oppose the establishment of a multilateral verification mechanism though it claims to abide by the BWC?
  • If the US wants to prove its innocence, why doesn’t it open up these bio-labs for independent investigations by international experts?
[–] kamikaze@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 years ago

I will say your post is misleading as none of these questions have been answered, so China has no new information

[–] kamikaze@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 years ago

I fully agree. And I can't wait to hear answers.