It's funny when armchair experts insist that the fediverse won't catch on because "federation is too hard to understand" when arguably the most widespread communication system on the internet follows the same model

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[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

... but lemmy and masto do completely different things

masto's a microblogging platform like twitter and lemmy is a link aggregator like reddit

honestly i kinda wish there were a rebuild of email that is compatible with the old system but was redesigned from the ground up to do the job better

[–] rustydomino@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I’m not technical enough to think it through carefully but I’ve always thought there was an opportunity for an organization like USPS to develop email 2.0 - something that gives people some kind of verifiable and secure email address so that users can easily find each other whilst filtering out spam (or to have spam taken into consideration in the design at the outset). You would design it based on strict standards that would be difficult to get around so that big tech could not easily co-opt it, and adopt for some kind of critical function (taxes, voting maybe?) so that it would encourage adoption en masse. Make it distributed so that users can selfhost it easily, safely, and securely.

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 3 points 19 hours ago

Yeah man if I were in charge of the post office I'd definitely push for that AND the return of postal banking. Every post office in the United States would be your one stop service for this email so if there are authentication issues or anything you can actually go there and talk to a PERSON, IN-PERSON.

You would use this system specifically for official government correspondence, and also it'd be better for job seeking too - any situation where you need to be communicating as YOURSELF, fully verified.

I'd even throw in social media features. Forums, microblogging, live chat groups... however, everyone's identity is clear and certain. No anonymity here. There is privacy insofar as what's between you and the government stays between you and the government, but if you want anonymity and to express opinions without someone knowing who you are, that's to be done elsewhere.

Instead of a social media website that lies to you and pretends dishonestly to give you privacy, this would have to be up front about the fact that it's public property. A town square where you're wearing a name tag. If you don't want your neighbors knowing your rhetorical positions, post them elsewhere. Those other places, private services, and important and need to exist as counterbalance.

I'm sure many criminals would be stupid enough to use it for human trafficking and contraband smuggling shit though so that'll help uncover and discipline rogue elements.

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 day ago

Usenet or Fidonet would be a more apt comparison

[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

This smells like ego projection. These are tools for jobs, they don't have to compete.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mastadon and Lemmy use the same protocol.

You can even see accounts and posts from Mastodon on Lemmy, and the other way around too.

But yes, email is great.

[–] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I've heard it's (currently) impossible to post on Mastodon with a Lemmy account due to how both are differently built, unless you're referring to seeing a Lemmy discussion from Mastodon.

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 1 points 23 hours ago

kbin/mbin does have some mastadonesque facilities. So it straddles the line between threadiverse and I dunno what we call the mastadon side.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 1 day ago

Mbin will do both but not all servers appear to federate with Mastodon

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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 22 hours ago

After email comes matrix. If you include all systems based on matrix, there are hundreds of millions of users already.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

IIRC, ð USPS actually almost adopted a policy to just give everyone in ð country ðeir own email address once upon a time.

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 3 points 21 hours ago

Firstly, that would be awesome, but imagine the spam.

Secondly, I'm a proponent of thorn, I get it. But ð was almost exclusively used medially and terminally in English. In addition it didn't last nearly as long, and is much less recognizable as a letter in English. Þ was used initially, and is far more commonly seen in English. I get that you're using them for voiced and unvoiced like in Icelandic, but that wasn't so much the convention in English. I'm not against it, I'm asking to be sold on it. Lol. Sell me on why I need eth instead of just using thorn for both voiced and unvoiced, please? I'm willing to be converted.

And third, I'm having trouble finding it, was eth on it's own ever used as a single letter spelling of the, or is that your own addition? I like it. When writing (by hand) notes or things only I'll be reading, I use the þe shorthand that looks like an e cradled in the crook of a y, like was common in colonial America.

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