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**You should reverse your concession, call for both a full investigation of criminal activity and demand hand recounts in all seven swing states.  **

In my professional view there are multiple and extremely clear indications the Presidential vote was willfully compromised.

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[–] makyo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

There is no reason to believe this is true - the ENTIRE NATION took a swing to the right.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/interactive/2024/11/05/compare-2020-2024-presidential-results/

Look at those red arrows everywhere, even blue states. If you want to prove the election was compromised you'd have to prove it was compromised everywhere and not just in the swing states.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If this is so probable, why can't I find any news source about this anywhere online other than here? Seems a little odd for someone to suggest the Election systems in swing states were compromises, and its only reported on this very obscure website.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Because the Dem leadership and the billionaire-owned media are too invested in the institutions of democracy to defend democracy itself by pointing out that those institutions broke under pressure from hostile actors that they treated as legitimate.

Also, they're probably worried that their reasonable inquiries based on actual reality will be equated with the fraudulent "stop the steal" AstroTurf campaign.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Doubt it, if there are credible claims of systemic access and manipulation of vote totals, people would be all over that shit. That's not the same as claiming the vote was stolen, and then presenting zero evidence.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 0 points 23 hours ago

Doubt it, if there are credible claims of systemic access and manipulation of vote totals, people would be all over that shit

Yeah, that's what they said about all of Trump's crimes too, but here we are..

That's not the same as claiming the vote was stolen, and then presenting zero evidence.

I know. What I'm saying is that they're using the risk of people impervious to evidence as lack of same accusing them as one of many excuses to not admit that the system they hold as more sacred than any ideal is broken and that they did a crappy job defending democracy.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, if there was anything to it they'd have their lawyers all over this. The result more or less matches the polling, and except for a few small incidents here and there, there were no issues.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Second link doesn't say anything close to what you're claiming it says.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

You wanted alternate news sources about election fraud in the general. Here’s an entire subreddit dedicated to it.

I’m not entirely convinced it is true, but the possibility that Trump and Musk would subvert the election wouldn’t surprise me.

Found another.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

No, i wanted to see this specific thing you posted reported elsewhere. But, it's not.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Copium. We all need to face who we truly are, collectively.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You don’t think it’s possible Trump and Musk would cheat?

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 1 points 4 hours ago

I think its more possible that the vast population of Americans did not turn up to vote, leading to only the hardcore bases showing up, and Trump had the bigger hoard.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

God, if this turned out to be true, and it's investigated and proven, and Trump and Musk actually see some consequences for their actions, I'd be tickled absolutely pink. It really would explain a lot, including Musk's absurd actions leading up to the election, as well as the baffling results.

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

He was going to go to jail... He said it himself... If Trump didn't win he was going to jail... I mean he still could be if he doesn't get a pardon from him

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Disrupt:

Over 60 Bomb Threats Were Made to Georgia Polling Precincts on Election Day

Inject bullet ballots at vote tabulations:

Christian Nationalist election workers

Profit!

Standifer urged the conservative Christians in the audience to become election workers, not just volunteers, because "when the polls start to close or chaos unfolds, they're gonna kick the volunteers out" while right-wing Christians will remain behind to be "the ones counting the votes." source

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