cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/24230552
Just capitalism doing its thing
Jesus fucking Christ i want to schedule a hysterectomy and i don't even have one of those.
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What does this have to do with capitalism?
If it becomes a thing capitalists could try to implement systems that make more brain dead women than would exist naturally, so that there are more babies to become workers. Look at for profit prisons and how we have more people in prison than any other country. If they want something they can pay to get it
But this came out of a public university in Colombia. Nobody ever suggested doing it for profit.
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Capitalism is when bad stuff
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The problem aren't babies, its funding those babies. Raising children is fucking expensive, and in the age of infinite growth nobody is allowed to slowdown to raise children. Adoption centers and foster homes are abysmal, and having kids is too expensive for most people.
The rich dont want to pay for peoples kids, they just want to squeeze the value out them. Thats why Elon and his vice president trump wants more H-1B visas. They don't have to pay for the childcare or education, they can just drain educated workers from another struggling country
The best way to get people to not care that you're raping (or otherwise abusing / exploiting) their children is to make sure they have too many to keep track of.
But like... why babies? We already have way too many of those. We need fewer babies.
If we're going to delve into some seriously murky ethical water here, why not forcus on something there's an actual need for, like organ and blood harvesting? And that would double donor pool by including men as poss-- ...oh. Oh yeah. That's why. -_-
That's already a thing in many countries, an opt-out program for organ donating, so by default they will take my organs if I'm braindead
I mean a step or two beyond that- like keep a braindead body alive via feeding tube and ventilator so it's just constantly generating blood that drips into donor bags. Keep just enough in the body's circulation to keep it ticking, but bag the rest -- it would produce WAY beyond the output of a mind-intact donor.
Bone marrow transplant? Done. Skin grafts? Hit it. Fucking hair for wigs? Plasma? Hell, even fecal transplants are a thing (restores GI microbiome that got wiped out... it's gross as fuck, but it's a thing - and it requires the donor to follow a VERY specific diet, that can now be force-fed).
Basically anything the body passively generates that we have some use for; keep a braindead-human-cattle-donor on life support and milk it for all it's got.
...that sounded a bit bit like a sales pitch - gist is to illustrate just how far we could take this. Putting the focus on babies will just worsen the population problem, but also showcases an extreme lack of imagination!
I doubt the blood is more useful than all the organs required to produce it.
But if I lie braindead in a hospital, I would be happy if my body is divided up in the way a doctor determines to be the most useful for society.
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If we're going to delve into some seriously murky ethical water here, why not forcus on something there's an actual need for, like organ and blood harvesting?
Speaking of, I just watched the MST3K episode on The Clonus Horror. It didn't end well.
Tap for spoiler
It didn't start particularly good either. And the middle was a slog.
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The amount of babies isn't the issue America, it's the fact that we can't afford them.
And that the government won't do shit-all to help them. A baby born to a corpse is not going to have a good life in America.
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WHAT THE FUCK!
Literally the plot of Shinsekai Yori (don't watch Shinsekai Yori, it will fuck you up)
Also around Season 3 of Handmaid's Tale, with Janine.
To be fair to them, when the rat queen was fully conscious, she freely killed / maimed / raped her own kind.
I don't want to excuse Squealer's actions, any more than I would Hitler's, but I will say that he rightfully upset a horrific "natural order" likely imposed by earlier humans
My brother in christ, this is not OG sleeping beauty, wtf. How did they expect that conversation to go down?
"Yes, I know your daughter is brain dead, but good news, she will be able to breed for the nation! What? You don't like the idea of state sanctioned rape and forced breeding?" It baffles me that some people really just see women as a vessal. No thoughts on how horrific that would be for any woman going into the hospital (if something goes wrong, I don't even get a respectful death), and for their families should one of the worse case scenarios occur ("You can bury her after we've popped out a few wave slaves"). Not even thoughts on the children that would be produced by such horrors.
Literally anything than make the world a better place for people to raise children in.
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I know forced sterilization is bad, but people that come up with opinions this psychotic...should not be allowed to procreate.
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I've been watching too many medical dramas and think that this would make a neat episode if done correctly. Like if a woman had agreed to be a surrogate for her gay brother and made it explicitly clear that she wanted it to occur even if she was in an accident and brain dead. There's a lot of moral issues and it would be interesting to see them play out in a fantasy universe.
I can't imagine a situation where this would be OK in real life, to be clear.
This was an episode of Grey's Anatomy. A pregnant woman is in a car crash and is brain dead, and her parents want to keep her on life support until the baby is born. I think in the end, they decided to let them both go.
Oh neat, ironically Grey's is what I've been binging - I must not be to that episode yet. I do think there's a difference, though, between keeping a pregnant woman's body alive to allow her baby to be born vs. impregnating a brain dead woman.
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Nice try Hideo Kojima. You won't be making the death stranding reality!
Oh, Brave New World!
Oh hey capitalism wants to create the Daemonculaba.
I honestly don't see a problem with that, as long as the woman gave her consent while she was of sound mind. Surrogate pregnancy is already a fairly common thing; this is just extending it to after one is brain-dead.
Obviously if it's done nonconsensually that's an entirely different matter, and is a horrifying idea (imagine miraculously waking up from an 8 month coma only to find you're pregnant with someone else's child).
It's an okay, morally ambiguous policy if you reduce pregnancy to a completely autonomous process like pooping. Pregnancy involves medical visit, and a lot of "how do you feel?" moments that a braindead person is incapable of doing.
It's the same dismissive thinking that suggests a robot can be a fry cook, what happens when an oddly shaped food item gets in a gear and it spills oil on the floor, who's gonna clean it up?
It's the same dismissive thinking that suggests a robot can be a fry cook, what happens when an oddly shaped food item gets in a gear and it spills oil on the floor, who's gonna clean it up?
The cleansing power of fire, most likely.
Coma ≠ brain dead
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One step closer to a Brave New World
This is seriously fucked up, but I don't get the capitalism part of it?
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USA, where abortion is effectively illegal. ~~Went~~ Why can't adoption be a solution?