Don't forget tape drives aren't dead! Just bought lto4 tapes and drive for 37TB gotta say doesn't get better then physically storing and having agency of your own data. Also it's a lot of fun to do.
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I think none of us have to worry about privacy on hetzner too much - we're simply not that interesting.
Having said that, ideologically I cannot use them due to them facilitating a MitM attack. Not sure if this is the original, but if you're curious about the low level detail - you can read through it here.
About the mitm. I couldn't find in the text a report of how the mitm attack was done. How was the network reconfigured. If Russia got the password for example and used that hetzner and linode aren't at fault.
It's there. Hetzner helped with issuing a lets encrypt cert for the mitm proxy. The only reason they got caught was because they forgot to renew it. So while the real owner had all certs in order, the mitm proxy was serving an expired one.
Fair point.
I also don't like that NextCloud is implemented in PHP but at least it is widely used and gets some attention.
As much as I dislike php - nextcloud seems to be developed in a decent way. Been running a personal publicly exposed instance for 7 years now - no security concerns so far.
For those who need a cloud backup solution, I recommend the Hetzner Storage Box.
This product is more suitable for backups. Its key feature is snapshots, that let you automatically create periodic restore points (e.g. monthly). This helps against accidental deletion of files.
3.81 € for 1 TB instead of 5.11 €.
Is it any more secure than other big cloud providers though?
As in if the police came busting down the door with a warrant, would they be able to destroy any data in before and make it unrecoverable? Or would they go as far as to have the data be accessible to law enforcement?
Privacy laws are poor in Europe in general. Companies are required to facilitate the access of data for governments. The only way to prevent this is to encrypt all data before upload and use a VPN for all access to the cloud to avoid a potential raid at your home. Users will be quick to argue "well if you've got nothing to hide you've got nothing to fear!" I have never found that a compelling argument.
As a normal, established company, I doubt they'd violate law.
They do have the option to not keep logs. They can also encrypt any data so that it essentially becomes impossible to decrypt for a very long amount of time, well past a human lifespan.
They won't violate the law if they don't have anything usable to hand over. That is how good VPN providers operate.
As far as I know they dont do such stuff, but I dont know for sure.
If you don't need the Nextcloud, and just need some Web Storage to Backup/Rsync/Mount on your PC, the StorageBox is even cheaper
3.81 € for 1 TB instead of 5.11 €.
Per month? Vivaldi, the European Chromium based browser, offers 2T for 5 euro/month through their Shadow cloud service. Right now I'm uploading my stuff on it :) And the browser is sick (in a good way), better than Brave, with a lot more features and options.
I've been using this for quite a while now, and it has been working really well
I am total cloud noob. Can this replace Icloud for my iOS and macOS devices?
You cannot really swap it out because iCloud is much more deeply integrated into iOS.
That said, you can recreate certain use cases. For example, I have the NextCloud app on my iPhone and it automatically uploads all my photos. It cannot do it in the background like Apple, so I need to explicitly open the app once in a while. The good part is that sharing sets of photos with people outside the Apple ecosystem is easier because NextCloud allows me to send them a link.
You cannot backup your application config with NextCloud though.