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I mean... after November 2024, we could probably add the USA to that list... 🤦‍♂️

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 45 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Considering what companies like Meta and X are doing with their power, I kinda have to agree that the USA are currently the biggest threat to my personal freedom. Maybe Russia, Iran etc. have worse ideologies, but they don't have as much power over my country.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yea I can see it, but Russia is absolutely intentionally pushing us in that direction through various means.

I don't remember which thread it was, but someone else on Lemmy said "Russia, shit military, excellent intelligence apparatus" and I think that's a very apt description lol

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Russia is definitely making a good effort at getting as much influence as the US (especially considering the influence it has on the US itself), but the parties here that aren't out-and-out nazis are looking more towards the US than Russia, and we don't have Russian army bases here, either. And between Facebook+Instagram and something like Russia Today, I'd say Meta's sites are the more influencial ones, especially among people who aren't already off the deep end.

Largely because putin

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

No, China and Russia is good, because they're nominally communist and formerly communist.

Also North Korea, because same reason. Whatever Juche is, is good. So Kim Jong Un is good.

Also all the others are good because Islam is awesome, I love how oppressive it is. Favourite religion by far. Brothers and fathers unhesitant in honor killing of family keeps them in line, which is good.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Russia literally supported US fascism, and campaigned hard for it to win the 2024 election, but Russia is nothing to worry about, you shitlib >:(

(also the US has ALWAYS been fascist, so it doesn't matter, and nothing has changed, and Trump isn't that bad, and Both Sides anyway)

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Almost had me, but not enough ranting about BlUemAgA gave it away lolol

[–] JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I don't understand what's wrong with this meme. Even if agreeing that the countries are harmful, is America not a larger threat?

[–] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

Well I live in South Korea and I'm pretty sure my answer is not going be the same.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Russia is a nuclear power, there were even a couple articles like a year or 2 ago talking about how Putler was, at least trying to, remove any safeguards between his button push and the actual nukes.

Thus preventing another occurrence of when that Russian missile operator received orders to fire nukes because radar said there was in inbound missiles but the operator decided to ignore them and it turned out to be a glitch or whatever.

[–] JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

America has an even larger arsenal? With a just as, if not even more, unstable guy in control of the button?

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes and no, America does have a similar sized arsenal, but the difference is the president isn't in control of the button itself. The "nuclear football" is more like a private key and order transmittal device, basically if the nuke missile silos receive an order from it, they can trust it's legit because the presidents football signed it. The silos firing mechanisms are also all independent. They can still choose to not insert their key and turn it (of which it takes 2)

In Russia, it may very well be that Putler has actual control of the actual button that controls the actual firing mechanisms of the silos themselves.

And I think they're much more likely to want to launch a nuke. Russia is fighting on Russian soil and experiencing some pretty intense economic issues due to the war, whereas the US hasn't fought on US soil since... the Civil War? And that's with fighting in both world wars and a number of other undeclared wars.

Russia could argue they're using them defensively, which might save them from retaliation (probably not), whereas the US has no excuse. I'm much more worried about the cornered animal than apex predator, because you can predict what the predator is going to do.

[–] spacecadet@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They have become a parody of themselves

[–] lemonmelon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago

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