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Which browser do you use and why? (lemmy.selfhostcat.com)
submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) by ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com to c/linux@lemmy.ml
 

Using firefox but concerned now

Read about some alternatives:

Edit 2/28: It seems there is no general consensus if we should switch and/or to what.

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[–] Filetternavn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I use Mullvad Browser. It's maintained in coordination with the Tor Project, and is essentially the Tor Browser with Tor itself stripped out. Same browser fingerprinting protections, however, among other things.

EDIT: I'd like to clarify that this has nothing to do with my trust in Mozilla or Firefox itself, especially not concerning recent panics about benign changes. I still use Firefox on the side, it just does not have fingerprinting protections by default, and hardening it manually leads to minor differences between user configurations (even with Arkenfox if that's still around) that is solved by Mullvad Browser for me. I use Mullvad Browser for my main browsing, and Firefox for specific exceptions. Firefox itself is fine, and no, Mozilla is not burning it to the ground.

[–] huquad@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is my lead contender now that Firefox is shitting the bed. Any downsides?

[–] swab148@startrek.website 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Mull browser is deprecated, Ironfox is the community fork

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[–] boydster@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Been moving over to LibreWolf and I'm pretty happy with it so far. I added NoScript and CanvasBlocker extensions, along with my password manager, and I'm getting settled in with it now.

[–] Neptr@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The fingerprint protections in Librewolf already protect against canvas fingerprinting. You actually make ourself stand out even mkre by using it. Even with RFP disable, ETP still protects against canvas fingerprinting.

[–] boydster@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nice, I was unaware, thanks!

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[–] enemenemu@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Mostly fennec (firefox) on android but there are concerning news every half year about firefox. No idea how long I can withstand.

Vanadium is my alternative but it has no (good) browser tab overview (list instead of huge squares). And bottom navigation is sub par as well. Brave would be better in that regard but vanadium is rock solid.

As soon as firefox drops ublock, I'm out. For me, that day is still far away, but I guess it's inevitable. You can't trust firefox not chaning their path anymore. :'( .

[–] paequ2 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Apparently, Floorp is another Firefox fork. Has anyone tried this?

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I use Floorp as my main browser! I like it, it's very customisable and kind of weirdly Japanese lol

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[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I use Floorp, it's balanced well between looks and privacy, you can't even enable data collection if you wanted to

[–] krimson@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Firefox. I can't imagine they would do something stupid like this with the little marketshare they have, but nothing surprises me anymore.

Does ublock work with any of these alternatives?

[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

IIRC, it's one of the few add-ons that does work with Librewolf.

That said, the main reason I don't use is, if I'm remembering the right browser, it just goes way too far with the privacy protections. There's literally a single thing that's a deal breaker for me, and that's the inability to use dark mode on websites. It's absolutely blinding to the point of being essentially unusable for me.

[–] prunerye@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

I've never heard of librewolf preventing dark mode. Garuda's firedragon browser was based on librewolf before switching to floorp, and it came with the darkreader extension by default.

[–] swab148@startrek.website 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I use DarkReader on Librewolf, works just fine. In fact, all of my extensions work.

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[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Brave, FOSS. Because it's the best one I have found for my use case. Been using it since 2021, after some 20 years with FF. No regrets.

[–] confuser@lemmy.zip 1 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

I am surprised by the lack of people mentioning brave, i swear it used to be mentioned everywhere.

Did something happen or did a newer better browser come out?

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[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Mullvad browser, simply I used to used hardened Firefox but a pre-hardened one is so much more efficient

[–] arsCynic@beehaw.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Zen as main driver because of its features that are on par with Chromium-based Vivaldi browser, and LibreWolf on "older" machines or systems that require stability/consistency. Both are awesome to me. On Android plain Firefox remains pleasant to use, but open to suggestions.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i've been using firefox and its predecessors since the very beginning, all the way back to pre-release navigator.

i do have (and have always had) other browsers installed (using 'portable' installations of them, mostly, these days). currently those include vivaldi, opera, librewolf and waterfox. at least one of which is added along side firefox on each desktop (most often also with a firefox dev edition). these are mostly for testing but also to separate specific online tasks into their own browser. the chromium-based ones are used for very specific things requiring addons that don't work well or at all with firefox.

unless i need to in order to assist a client, i do not use chrome as provided by google, and i do not use edge from microsoft except for its primary function: downloading another browser when i don't have a flash drive handy with its installer already downloaded and saved to it.

having actually read the policy documents in question and considering the intent and purpose of the changes that mozilla is making, i have no plans on changing my primary browser.

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[–] jamesbunagna@discuss.online 5 points 1 day ago

Trivalent, i.e. "a hardened chromium for desktop Linux inspired by Vanadium". Vanadium, for the uninitiated, is the browser found on GrapheneOS; the most secure and privacy-friendly/conscious OS for phones.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

I have only tried Zen from your list and it's been nice so far. The most recent update last night broke something with the multi account containers, but other than that it's been smooth sailing for months.

Ladybird looks promising but it's not out yet. Planning to try switching to it when it's out.

Arc is apparently dead (or dying), but it was chromium based, VC funded, and Zen does most of the same things anyway. https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/24/24279020/browser-company-ai-browser-arc

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Right now I use mainly Firefox, not because I like it but because it comes with my distro (whereas LibreWolf requires Flatpak) making it work well with the PWA project and it supports weird hacks necessary to install Widevine on my system so I can listen to Tidal. I also have LibreWolf installed with data set to delete on close and set up to proxy over Tor and I2P using privoxy and has LibRedirect installed which is set up to redirect to the corresponding onion/i2p domains. I was trying to install Zen Browser using the Guix package manager earlier but had problems, but I might try again later.

On Android, I use Vanadium for sites I stay logged into, Cromite with auto clearing history for other stuff, and Ironfox for Kagi and to use plugins like LibRedirect.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

Looking forward to Ladybird but it is very early days. Have been using Zen a lot. And Orion on iPhone.

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