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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago

Indeed and the fucking MAGAts are sucking down the Kremlin stirred Orange Kool-Aid.

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The president grovels to putin: This is an unprecedented loss of u.s. soft power and the world is judging America for it's cowardice.

The president, congress and every major media organization grovels to netanyahu: ....

This does look bad on our part but the main thing making us look bad on the world stage is our support for Israel. If you ask the average person outside of the west what they find most offensive about this administration they'll probably say its genocidal policy in gaza, not it's shakedown of an ally.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That’s just not true

Countries threatened by China care a lot more about this than Gaza

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Maybe, but that's a small amount of countries / people. Mostly Taiwan and to a far lesser extent south Korea and Japan. Most other countries aren't threatened by China, and the few that are aren't allied enough with the u.s. to plan there defense around u.s. support.

Meanwhile the Israeli genocide has brought together the large swaths of the Muslim world with progressive anti colonial movements in the global south against Israel and the u.s.

The world isn't just the u.s. and its allies. Most people live in countries outside that political sphere, though most within it tend to forget that.

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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"No country in history" is a pretty bold claim. Surely Britain ceding India for example would be a counterexample, just off the top of my head.

But honestly, uh, good? I don't want the US acting as global hegemon. The power and influence wielded by the nation-state only goes to benefitting the rich and powerful. It doesn't benefit ordinary people in any way, whether domestically or abroad.

I don't know why it's assumed that heading a global empire is supposed to be a good thing, it certainly doesn't align with my values as a leftist.

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[–] index@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Did USA give up any power? I'm missing something or people are not paying attention at all?

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yes. We are losing soft power and allies all around the world thanks to the orange menace.

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Our soft power has taken a greater hit from our unwavering support for Israel than this. How many countries outside of Europe have come out to condemn this? Meanwhile u.n. vote after u.n. vote everyone except for the u.s. and it's proxies vote to condemn this genocide and the u.s. sending weapons.

This definitely doesn't make us look good, but it's not the unprecedented foreign relations catastrophe people are making it out to be.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How is USA losing soft power and which allies are they losing?

[–] towerful@programming.dev 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Canada, Mexico, the UK, the EU.
I can guarantee Africa, South America, Australia, New Zealand... All countries are paying attention.
All are recognising the US as significany weaker than they have been in a long time. All of them are making power grabs by supporting Ukraine and investigating new trade alliances/deals not involving the US, further weakening US power.
While these are absolutely the moral and correct things to do, and supporting Ukraine is the human thing to do, bolstering international security - there is also a huge amount of soft power to be had in the support, and a good reason to up domestic arms production which helps replace/offset Americas hard power (IE military might).
Where countries have relied on American weapons before, the threat of America "switching off" a countries jets and missiles cannot be ignored.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Canada, Mexico, the UK, the EU.

So what changed between these countries and USA?

All are recognising the US as significany weaker than they have been in a long time.

How are they doing that?

All of them are making power grabs by supporting Ukraine

Power grabs to what?

and so on

[–] towerful@programming.dev 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wow. What a lovely conversation we are having.
Just asking questions, aye?

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Power is quite quantifiable these days. If you want to prove that US lost power you have to provide some concrete evidence that they did. To me it doesn't look like they lost much

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2021304/norway-fuel-giant-refuses-fill

This is what losing soft power looks like but lot of it won't be noticed until all of our allies start doing these small things.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Translation: you’ve either been under a rock, or you’ve been watching nothing but Faux News.

This, folks, is why it’s important to stay informed with actual news and information. So you don’t ask a silly question like this.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think you have been living under a rock because despite what politician talk on tv nothing seem to have changed

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

nothing seem to have changed

Did you forget the /s, or are you just not paying attention?

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, there were definitely talk about taking over Mexico, Canada, Panama, and Greenland before last month.

Oh wait, no they weren't.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This looks like a display of power to me

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ok, but now you admit things have changed

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 days ago

we are talking about US losing power

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The fact you dont have a clue speaks volumes.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Please highlight me on which power USA lost so far

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Look at everyone elses replies to you fucking dolt. You want me to do your fucking homework lmao.

Go suck some more Putin dick.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 days ago

Look at everyone elses replies to you fucking dolt.

No replies here actually point out to evidence that US actually lost a significant amount of power

Go suck some more Putin dick.

Why are you thinking of him? perhaps that's what you want to do?

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

One of our greatest strengths is that we build coalitions. We just told the world that if you ally with us, you better be ready to grovel.

For example, places like Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan are capable of building nuclear weapons but they didn't bc they trusted us to protect them. Each of those countries are now imagining themselves sitting there in front of cameras being berated for ingratitude.

Without our allies we are much less powerful.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For example, places like Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan are capable of building nuclear weapons but they didn’t bc they trusted us to protect them.

They didn't do it because they can't without US approval.

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That is false. But I think I see where you're coming from, you may be more interested in !chadmctruthstruth@lemmy.world

[–] Transtronaut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can't figure out if that community is supposed to be satirical or not.

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net -1 points 2 days ago

Either way, it's a great place to direct people to.

[–] Killer57@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] index@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The people (and mainly the private companies) of an allied country redused to help America. Only under threat from the Norwegian government did the US ships get fuel. Sounds like a loss of power to me

"Huge credit to the president of Ukraine restraining himself and for keeping calm even though USA put on a backstabbing TV show. It made us sick... No Fuel to Americans!," the company said in a now deleted Facebook post - just a good excerpt from the article

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The people (and mainly the private companies) of an allied country redused to help America. Only under threat from the Norwegian government did the US ships get fuel. Sounds like a loss of power to me

Some company tried to go against US and they got immediately rectified, that's the power we are talking about at work.

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So, you can't see how more and more people going against the US is equal to losing power world wide? How a government treating its citizens to be freindly isn't actually friendly?

We literally would gas up all the time in Norway no questions asked but now we're not and you can't see the problem?

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[–] StoneyPicton@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Another big winner here is China. I would love to know the contents of that meeting between putin and xi, I think back in 2022(?)

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[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It wasn't disinformation - it is a pedophile who had minors delivered into his bed and was filmed during the atrocities. The resulting child pornography is what makes orange guy the lap dog of a psychotic killer.

The rest was easy with an asset that high in the ranks.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Could be. It could also just be bribes.

The current situation is really nice for countries like Russia, Saudi-Arabia and China. They just need to pay a few billion to Trump and get stuff that cannot be bought and are easily worth hundreds of billions from the US empire.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Their new crypto grifts really take this to an extreme level. Hundreds of millions just directly given to Trump as bribes now, its actually insane.

[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

It could be either of those things certainly, but I feel like no amount of money Russia could provide would be enough for Trump, he's in control of the United States Treasury and can direct money anywhere with impunity (see also: Starlink). If they came out with a video he'd just call it fake - particularly in this age of AI - and it would have zero effect.

Russians throw people out windows all the time though. I'd be willing to bet that the threat of physical harm is all that is necessary to control him.

Or quite possibly, all three things. Keep us happy and the money keeps flowing, the porn stays in the vault and you won't be unalived.

One thing is certain: it's not nothing.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It was mostly disinformation though, if you look at how most of the social media, and MSMs ran, it's mostly talking points from Russia in some form another

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