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[–] alphapuggle@programming.dev 26 points 2 days ago

Seeing people say "GrapheneOS fixes this!" "It's only on old versions of Android!"

Device Info HW app that can read my applications

Permissions requested (viewed in Google Play, lack of any "read applications" permission)

Permissions granted in settings app, still lacking any "read applications" permission

This is on a Pixel 8 Pro with the latest version of GrapheneOS. This is an issue and has been for a long time. Many apps detect root by looking for the Magisk package using this method, and many collect this information just for advertising (go ahead, export your Snapchat data)

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

*if you have an older Android phone.

[–] kipo@lemm.ee 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What do you mean? The article is talking about current versions of Android.

[–] DaGeek247@fedia.io 12 points 2 days ago

The second half of the article talks about how the apps get around this permission requirement.

[–] kipo@lemm.ee 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Well that was a horrifying read. Is there any software that can protect against this? GrapheneOS? LineageOS? A Magisk module?

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Island, Insular, Shelter; apps that allow managing separate profiles.

My setup: mostly Open Source apps on a custom ROM like LineageOS, the neccessary proprietary apps in shelter, connections managed via,Tracker Control. That one proprietary app that's too useful to have separate is fixed via App Manager.

[–] LodeMike 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Separate profiles, although graphene is supposedly working on it last I heard.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I know apple products are mortal sin on this site, but I’m thankful I switched to iOS a decade ago. I loved my Android phones but I’ll never be assed to do CFW again, and since I don’t use my phone for much, I honestly appreciate the walled garden. Fuck apps. Messaging and basic browsing = phone. Anything else is for Big Screen.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Great. Now instead of Google, Apple collects your data :)

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At least

gestures to the article we’re commenting on

THAT doesn’t happen

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

Okay that VERY LIKELY doesn't happen, by the design of the OS. Apps have very limited access to each other and I like that.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

It's probably because of the bubble I live in, but I most of these apps.

Same here, i hadn’t even heard of Swiggy or Ola or TATA 1mg.

Btw, there was Island on a list there.

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I know this happened a few years ago but would having a separate work profile through Shelter, Island, or Insular limit the app to only see those on the profile?

[–] AmbiguousProps 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, it would. Those basically create sandboxes.

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 5 points 2 days ago

That's what I assumed. Thanks for confirming.

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Everyone*
All***

*On some versions of Android**
*Mostly Indian apps
**Workarounds exist***
***Workaround only works for checking a hardcoded list of apps, and can't check all your apps

Informative article, but damn the clickbait