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An example would be a version of the trolley problem where you can either allow the track to remain on its current path which is empty, or divert it to harm an individual unnecessarily. This is a choice between a universally good outcome or a universally bad outcome.

Whereas the typical trolley problem is an ethical dilemma since both options are harmful and neither are ideal so it's choosing between 2 bad outcomes.

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[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Obvious choice.

Self evident choice.

Unequivocal choice

[–] Lafari@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Lafari@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hoping for a better term than this

[–] FarraigePlaisteach@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

How about a moral shoe-in? :)

[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Lafari@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

That describes whichever of the 2 options is morally correct more than the situation in which there is a clear correct option, doesn't it?

[–] infectoid@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Splitdipless@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

certainty

I like this one the best. A dilemma is not necessarily that there's no good options, but rather the decision is difficult. Think of the time traveler killing Hitler problem: if you kill Hitler too early, he isn't globally hated anymore when time plays out, and you're just a murderer. Too late, and you've allowed so many people to die just to justify that he deserves to die... Where's the 'right time?' There's a giant spectra of time that you can make as a justification of when to kill Hitler.

[–] infectoid@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

To quote myself, there’s no β€œethical certainty” when (hypothetically) travelling back in time. You can never know the untold devastation you will introduce or avoid by making major or even minor changes.

I love time travel stories but most of them really skip over some of the more complex issues.

Which reminds me of a fairly low budget movie that was actually not bad, Time Trap. Check it out if you can find it.

[–] dewritoninja@pawb.social 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe just an ethical lemma.

[–] WiseThat@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

This is right. Di-lemma literally means two-options.

Lemma means one option.

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 months ago

Straightforward

[–] borf@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 11 months ago

This doesn't work as a more academic term but "slam dunk" is what came to mind πŸ˜‚

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 11 months ago

The right thing.

[–] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Lafari@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Don't want to start an applied ethics debate so that's why I used the modified trolley problem example

[–] cheeseburger@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

I always thought there should be an opposite word for dilemma, since dealing with a choice between two equally positive outcomes happens often in life.

[–] detalferous@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

A unilemma? Monolemma?

[–] DroneRights@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

A vevalemma. Vevaios is Greek for certain.