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Mushoku Tensei: Isekai Ittara Honki Dasu Season 2, episode 7

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[–] GolGolarion@pathfinder.social 9 points 1 year ago

hey what the fuck rudy

[–] Nerevarinevivec@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pretty great episode. This director is really great at adding comedy into scenes like the fight scene. Also a lot of small character details like how Julie is terrified of Rudy and hides behind Zanoba while also headpatting him. Also I like the characterization of how the two beast girls seem to be reformed ex delinquents who are trying to attend school naturally and so initially rebuff Rudeus attempting to fight them.

There's a lot of people in the thread bringing attention to how can the school allow obvious confinement. But maybe it's just all the recent magic school anime like Seven Spellblades, Mashle, and even OG Harry Potter, but magical student going missing and the school being fine with it seems a very common occurrence.

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I gotta say, regarding last episode, I'm still not ok with how slavery is handled in MT. I know the light novel explores the subject better than the anime did, but still. For Rudeus to actually buy a slave, when he initially grew up in a society where there is no slavery, and when keeping in mind that probably many of those orphans were orphaned during the Fitoa Incident, it leaves a very sour taste in my mouth.

[–] people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

My brother in Christ, Rudy literally kidnapped, bound and SA'd two little girls in this episode. Not once in the entire narrative has he ever been shown as an unambiguously good character, he has always shown varying (but non-zero) levels of degeneracy. It's just how his character has been written, he is not your conventional white knight hero.

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

To add to that: he's actually less shitty as a person in the new world than he was in Earth. And he doesn't even show the remorse that he was supposed to - he's still pissy at his old life's brothers for breaking his computer with a bat!

[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I hope you too will be able to see a stark difference between being a degenerate and being cool with enslaved children. I am not asking for Rudeus to kick down the door to the slavers market and declare that slavery is no more, but I do expect more than just an internal monologue to hand-wave away any moral conundrum.

[–] Kiruko@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Maybe you should take a better look at dictionary definitions of degenerate. There is likely only a stark difference in your own mind because of the term being normalised in your experience.

Just like Rudy has likely grown up with slaves in existence in this world. Which is bound to have normalised that for him.

Just remember how long he's lived in this world now. And use that to put things in perspective

[–] GreenBlue@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, so I am currently watching the first two episodes of this show and while it seems interesting, I have a difficult time looking past the pervertedness; it is making me cringe and not in a good way. Like a little is fine, boobs very funny, sure whatever. This on the other hand feels very wrong, maybe I am just a massive prude since I don’t see many people taking issue with this. Yes it is fiction, I know, but it is kind of dulling my enjoyment.

Is this going to become less of a thing later on? I saw people mentioning it would, yet I saw some things about SA so I’m not too hopeful.

[–] Nerevarinevivec@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the first two episodes is a bit too much for you it's better to just drop it now. Sexuality is a constant theme in MT and it will happen throughout.

[–] GreenBlue@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Alright, thanks for your advice! Bit disappointing because I like the rest, and I’m usually okay with sexuality… just not like this.

[–] negativeprimes@urusai.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@GreenBlue Yeah, it's a shame because the show has so much going for it... and then it pulls stunts like that. 🤦

[–] GreenBlue@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right? It is so unnecessary, and the point would also come across with way fewer/less intense stunts as you call them appropriately. Oh well… might just not be for me, then.

[–] negativeprimes@urusai.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@GreenBlue A series that strikes me as similar but not nearly as problematic is Faraway Paladin. You might check it out if you're not familiar with it.

[–] GreenBlue@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That looks very interesting! I actually haven’t really watched any anime in like 6 years except for AoT and a movie up until the last two-ish months, so I’m still not very up to date and recommendations are always welcome. I’ll look into it for sure, thank you.

[–] negativeprimes@urusai.social 1 points 1 year ago

@GreenBlue Sure thing! And I'm always happy to recommend stuff if people want.

[–] Ludrol@szmer.info 2 points 1 year ago

I think there was something crucial skipped in the whole kidnapping. The beast duo didn't realy mind that much whole SA and kidnapping thing.

At this moment in time we aren't supposed to root for rudeus.

[–] Electricorchestra@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Well I sure hope this school has a student's code of conduct so that they can expel their new problematic as fuck student.

Anyone else feel a little sick watching Rudy be racist, and then kidnap and sexually assult two people?

[–] vvvvv@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Rudy be wilding.