Sigh... while "good news", I really hope this doesn't put the push to recycle lithium batteries on the back burner.
this post was submitted on 10 Sep 2023
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The demand for lithium is still high enough that both are required, so it’s still good news regardless. But lithium batteries are still not super great due to the complex chemistry required.
I’m more interested in the solid state, sodium-ion, or the zinc based depending on the application and whether they can work out some of the hurdles.
potentially bad news for Bolivia, depending on how difficult it is to extract, I suppose. good for domestic LiFePO4 cell production though...
Or perhaps just good news for EV aficiandos everywhere. It seems to me that there's enough demand for all the lithium there is.
exactly good news, hopefully not being monopolize to control the market pricing later
cause i can imagine the "cheap" abundances of battery will only accelerate the EV adoption
It's certainly bad news for the development of more environmentaly friendly battery technology.
Its going to mean nothing unless its easy to seperate from the rest of the sediment.
USA really does have everything.
It could also be really really small. It could also be capable of feeling and thinking.
The little lithium deposit that could
Oh! 😳 sorry man! We found a family of sea skunks living in that part of the fossilized forest. Plus it's where they buried Fred. Nah. You'll have to go dig down in Bolivia.
Leave it in the ground.
So we can continue to use China/Bolivia's slave labor to get lithium instead?
You are right, there is no slave labor in the US.
Instead, let's underpay our own.
Sounds better than slave labor, no?
At least with slave labor you get lunch.
The USA has the largest network of slave labour camps in the world.
You need to read up on the 13th amendment of the US constitution, and look up how manufacturing works in the USA.
We don't need lithium batteries for electric busses. Cities have had electric lines above streets to power electric busses for decades.
Same for electric trains.
Want to replace fossil fuels?
You have two options. Nuclear, or renewables.
Renewables, however, generally don't produce consistent energy output. So, you need a way to store the surplus, and release it at night time.
The most effective way of storing this energy, is currently pumped hydro. However, it has very specific geographical restrictions, and isn't an option in most cases.
The other option, is lithium, until a better alternative is produced.
As well, you need to replace fossil fuel usage for vehicles. The only current suitable alternative with an "OK" energy density, charge rate, and output capacity, is lithium based technologies. Typically uses Li-ion, or LiFePO4.
Have a cell phone? Its powered with lithium batteries. All cell phones, are powered with lithium. Typically LiPO, or Li-ion.
One day, this will change, but, until that day, lithium is needed.
Green methane works great for storing and transmitting energy